Turks!

They're Turks, for Pete's sake.

It was bound to happen.

https://khazardnaproject.wordpress.com/2017/08/29/shaming-23andme-works/

one cannot rule out the important contribution of a single or a few founders among contemporary Ashkenazi Levites.

My DNA profile shows about 2% Scandinavian stock.

Maybe I should get a helmet with horns and start packin' a battle ax.

Nah. Then you’d have to root for the Minnysota Vikings. 😜

Ok, I’m ignorant. I think I know what this is saying but I’m not sure. Translation please?

Here is another DNA study which leads to very interesting questions

https://news.nationalgeographic.com...rican-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

Here's a pretty good article on the subject.

I wonder how long it will be available?

https://theconversation.com/ashkena...y-scientists-thanks-to-ancient-dna-97962

Paul Ryan's DNA indicated he was 3% Ashkenazic Jew.

Well if Jews ain’t Jews how am I supposed to blame em for everything?

FUGK!

Three points:

1) Your barely stated premise is that this information implies that there's no such thing as organized Jewry which has definite objectives. This information doesn't in any way imply that.

2) Another premise you imply is also false in that it's hugely exaggerated, i.e., your use of "everything."

3) Being Jewish, as I've stated from day one here (whenever this subject comes up) has little to nothing any longer to do with actual ancestry from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but is rather a cultural/religious/ethnic tradition which is primarily identified by a) its claim to having a connection with those three persons, and b) a unified approval of the Crucifixion of Christ as a just punishment for terrible crimes.

So nothing has changed because you knew this all along?

The Khazar theory has been out there since the 1940s, at least. Now it's also supported by science. It's meaningless as to me, however.

Bristoe behind the times on this one.

Also, still workshopping an ethnic slur that is genealogically accurate.

How about:

"You Organized Jew fugk!"

Thoughts?

So there is no chance at all that a bunch of Turks walked to Israel and gave rise to Abraham et. al ?

Where’s the OBVIOUS proof Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of foreigners?

That being skeletal DNA from Jewish burials in the Holy Land prior to the Diaspora?

You're not making sense.

That would be interesting. Is there such data available?

Probably looked a lot like a Palestinian.

Probably looked a lot like a Palestinian.

Why don't the Organized Jews just use their Organized Jew powers to control the information stemming from these DNA/ancestry databases?

Bristoe and TRH discovered that they have both jooo and neegroe ancestors. They are pizzed because they are not rich, smart or well hung. Self hate produces a deranged and very limited thought process.


mike r

It's coming.

So organized jewry is reactive as opposed to proactive?

Must not be a very bright bunch.

Well, damn, 4,500 years before Moses a bunch of Iranian Turks show up in Israel......

Hope they didn't breed, that would screw up everything....

https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology...-in-israel-brought-by-migrants-1.6389513

You're just pissed because you learned that you're no better than any other Caucasian.

What could be better than being a caucasian?


mike r

Now lvmiker has gone all white supremacist.

Any port in a storm!, I guess.

Now lvmiker has gone all white supremacist.

Any port in a storm!, I guess.

No one who has read your posts could believe in white supremacy.


mike r

What could be better than being a caucasian?


mike r

Not sure how you arrive at that as dot Indians are caucasian and I don't see them as being overly white or supreme at anything...okay, maybe spelling bees.

Mike r merely posted a question, turns out Innuit is better, unless you're such an insensitive clod as to use the term "Eskimo"

I'm thinkin dot Indians are not Caucasian, but something else entirely...don't care what no book might have to say on the matter, either.

I'm a dumb Norwegian, that's a Caucasian.

Ha! Thats what them insensitive nuns put on the birth certificate at the orphanage!


Its a badge of honor!

And here I was thinking it was taken from the bone stucture.

How silly am I.

Ha! Thats what them insensitive nuns put on the birth certificate at the orphanage!


Its a badge of honor!

Any people that can invent the kayak should be proud.


mike r

All's I know is that I tolerate the cold pretty well and in the fall when the leaves start to turn..I lose my mind and start stuffing food into every available storage place in the house and out buildings.

In Basic Training I heard that the pussy's mighty cold.

I don't know but that's what I was told....

in the fall when the leaves start to turn..I lose my mind and start stuffing food into every available storage place in the house and out buildings.

Doesn't everybody in Montana do that?

Ha! Thats what them insensitive nuns put on the birth certificate at the orphanage!


Its a badge of honor!

They're both.

But there's no reason to underestimate them. Eastern European Caucasians are fairly bright people.

They just updated a bunch of DNA tests as they "... have refined their techniques with over five times the comparison DNA samples" to use now. Original results were almost 3/4 Irish and a total of 11 genetic components. Had a number of tiny portions, like 2% Norse, and 8% WOP. New results have just 10% Mick, 40% French, and 50% Great Britain... for some reason I just lost a lot of faith in both results.

The new results obviously rely on family history and written genealogy. I already have that. I wanted the reality. The nice round numbers also bother me.

I came to the conclusion some time ago that an educated guess is still just a guess.

It was bound to happen.

https://khazardnaproject.wordpress.com/2017/08/29/shaming-23andme-works/

WTF does this mean?

Nevermind, I stopped reading and don't GAS

"To those of you who missed the drama, allow me to start from the beginning. In their latest round of updates, 23andme stumbled upon the Behar et al. (2003) or the later Rootsi et al. (2013) co-authored by Behar and many other scientists that associated the Y haplogroups R1a1 or R-M198 with Near Eastern populations and possibly with the Khazars (given that this was one of the largest conversion events in the history of the region). Here is what Behar et al. (2003) wrote:"

Must be something to it. They do a good job of matching you with close relatives.

My only comment about all of Bristoe's links is, "So what?"

After all, go back far enough, and Bristoe's ancestors were black Africans. As were all of ours.

About 70,000 years ago (or thereabouts) a group left Africa and later evolved into all other races. Many changes evolved. Among these are a shorter lower face (maw), less sloped backward forehead, more gracile bones (on average, as are all characteristics--there is much ovefrlap), and possibly some mental abilities. White skin was relatively recent, about 10,000 years ago, and was a good survival mechanism where there is less sunllght at high latitudes. Many Asian groups have features that help living in the cold.

The groups left in Africa also evolved.

It also seems that the invention of farming and towns has caused our bodies to get less robust, our stature to get shorter, and our brains to get about 10% smaller. At least those things happened more or less concurrently.

Many changes are still going on. But now there is merging due to interbreeding. About 25% of "African American" DNA is Caucasian. What impressed me about blacks in Africa was how black they were.

So whether Ashkenazi Jews came from Turkey or Antarctica is a "don't care," as is 23andme information.

Yeah because of genealogy records and they reverse engineer the results.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. But I did the ancestry.com thing a few years ago and it accurately connected me with many relatives across America that I'm familiar with.

I've worked though the family tree a bit and found that ancestry.com correctly sorted out some family history that wasn't common knowledge even within many members of the family.

It's been very accurate in the way that it linked things together.

So whether Ashkenazi Jews came from Turkey or Antarctica is a "don't care," as is 23andme information.

Because adopted children get put in the same place with papered relatives.

No they don't.

A man's children don't get counted as his nieces and nephews, either,..as evidenced by some history in my extended family.

I bet a lot of the Ashkenazi Jews care.

Bottom line. There's nobody on earth today that is closely related to the Biblical Israelites. Yet that's the idea that a large group of people base their entire identity on.

The Yemeni Jews have 10% DNA that can be linked to the biblical Israelites. They're only 90% Goyim. The Ashkenazi have such a small trace amount (3%) that it's not worth mentioning.

The whole thing is a hoax.

The Biblical Israelites mixed themselves into non-existence long, long ago.

My only comment about all of Bristoe's links is, "So what?"

After all, go back far enough, and Bristoe's ancestors were black Africans. As were all of ours.

Our family stuff has evidence of distant relations in wrong places.

Actually they are seriously questioning the whole cradle of Africa these days. A number of new finds all over are being looked at.

The Yemeni Jews have 10% DNA that can be linked to the biblical Israelites.

Where's the DNA data base of biblical Israelites?

Anybody who believes''they'' know who/what/when/where happened 70,000 years ago sure has far more confidence in the research than I do . It's all nothing but theory and there isn't much modern text that doesn't have an agenda .
Not directing this at you Sitka deer - just giving an opinion on the topic .

Where's the DNA data base of biblical Israelites?

So the Jewish dominance in science, Nobels and such, is purely a function of nurture?

Culture and networking. They are highly organized as Jews, and give great preference to advancing other Jews, so they get in control of various venues (e.g., Newspapers), and they make sure only Jews are advanced through the ranks, and that lots of Jews get regularly published, and no non-Jews who aren't friendly to Jewish advancement are published. Same in banking, Hollywood, Ivy League, Nobel Prizes, the garment industry, publishing, etc., etc., etc..

It's like two baseball teams playing against each other, but one has been practicing together for months and working up strategies, determined to win, etc., while the other is made up of various equally talented athletes, but they were told they couldn't train together (in fact, they had never seen one-another till the game started), and couldn't even communicate with each other during the game. It would be a shutout.

The hate runs deep.

The truth runs deep.

Where's the DNA data base of biblical Israelites?

Culture and networking. They are highly organized as Jews, and give great preference to advancing other Jews, so they get in control of various venues (e.g., Newspapers), and they make sure only Jews are advanced through the ranks, and that lots of Jews get regularly published, and no non-Jews who aren't friendly to Jewish advancement are published. Same in banking, Hollywood, Ivy League, Nobel Prizes, the garment industry, publishing, etc., etc., etc..

It's like two baseball teams playing against each other, but one has been practicing together for months and working up strategies, determined to win, etc., while the other is made up of various equally talented athletes, but they were told they couldn't train together (in fact, they had never seen one-another till the game started), and couldn't even communicate with each other during the game. It would be a shutout.

Read Culture of Critique, by Kevin B. MacDonald, Ph.D..

Is that about men’s fashion?

You response is absolutely, exactly, far leftist in it's origin.

How do you know what the ADL tells Amazon to do?

Well adjusted persons are content w/ their own accomplishments and don't seek solace in the history of others.
mike r

I'd tell you to Google it, but the ADL has directed that Google's algorithms be manipulated so that certain kinds of searches (such as one on the question you just asked) will now only give you the opposite of what you're looking for.

Sounds like you're adjusting well to the recent discovery that you're a Goy.

You have me confused having previously and on many occasions implied that I was jewish.
mike r

What could be better than being a caucasian?
mike r

I'd tell you to Google it, but the ADL has directed that Google's algorithms be manipulated so that certain kinds of searches (such as one on the question you just asked) will now only give you the opposite of what you're looking for.

You have me confused having previously and on many occasions implied that I was jewish. Your grasp on the truth becomes more tenuous w/ every post.


mike r

Somebody need to PM Remsen and let him know he a gentile.

It's funny, I just got the results of my DNA test. It said I am from Kentucky. The jokes on them, though, because the DNA sample I sent them was used toilet paper.

Culture and networking. They are highly organized as Jews, and give great preference to advancing other Jews, so they get in control of various venues (e.g., Newspapers), and they make sure only Jews are advanced through the ranks, and that lots of Jews get regularly published, and no non-Jews who aren't positively friendly to Jewish advancement are published. Same in banking, Hollywood, Ivy League, Nobel Prizes, the garment industry, publishing, etc., etc., etc..

It's like two baseball teams playing against each other, but one has been practicing together for months and working up strategies, determined to win, etc., while the other is made up of various equally talented athletes, but they were told they couldn't train together (in fact, they had never seen one-another till the game started), and couldn't even communicate with each other during the game. It would be a shutout.

I know its none of my business and this is not my quarrel....but you really should have signed off with Maazeltov or something like that.

Would have really made the moment.

I'm confused.

I once had a doctor ask my ancestery regarding my being treated for high blood pressure. I told him on one side eric the red, the other attila the hun. Pretty close. He said that's the problem. What? He asked if i ever thought about jumping across my desk and throttling somebody. Only a couple times a week. He said that's the problem. what? well your ancestors didn't have that problem, they had battle axes and swords and solved the problem, you can't do that these days. He was a good doctor.

lol,...The forum Jews get offended if you point to evidence which says that they're simply typical Caucasians.

That's pretty funny if you think about it a bit.

If you had read the articles I posted you would know.

Marcus Feldman, director of Stanford University's Morrison Institute ...

Hilarious, a Jew named Feldman didn't like the results. 😂

During the time of Christ, the total population of the Earth was only 170 million people,...and the Biblical Israelites were a very small fraction of that.

To think that a very small nomadic group such as that could maintain genetic purity throughout a 2000 year span when the Earth's population expanded to 7 billion people is ridiculous.

But eventually it will become common knowledge.

It's been evident to anyone with common sense that the Ashkenazi do not have Middle Eastern heritage. They're *way* too white.

Idon't believe the descendants of the Biblical Israelites stayed cohesive much past 500AD, if that long. They were essentially a nomadic people wandering all over Europe and Russia.

80 generations later, they're gone. As mentioned, it's only common sense.

And by the way,..wikipedia is an incredibly corrupted source.

et we got blue-eyed people there 5,000 years before Abraham. I woulda thought the concept of a WHITE Chosen People woulda had you turning handsprings in celebration

You're obviously not familiar with how the test data is composed.

Ancestry.com linked me to relatives that I knew existed, but I've never met them. It also accurately composed the way that I was related to them and went back to the common ancestor we shared.

It's funny, I just got the results of my DNA test. It said I am from Kentucky. The jokes on them, though, because the DNA sample I sent them was used toilet paper.

So what's your point and where's the evidence for whatever your point turns out to be?

You have no understanding of the evidence pro or com, I may have marginally more understanding than you but not much.

You were prob’ly just cued on to a highly suspect website by some White Nationalist online buddies and trumpeted it here is all. That Arab Israeli guy is prob’ly a star to whatever you guys call yourselves now.

Pushed back against here, ya started calling people “Jews” which is sorta funny and pathetic all at once.

People who constantly rave about their ancestorial lineage remind me of the potato. The best part about them is underground!!!

There’s lotsa folks confused about their ancestrial lineage. There never ceases to be an abundance of white boys, and girls, claiming descendence from one of many assorted Cherokee “princesses”.

Truth be known that Princess’ name was prolly Liza Jane or something similar.

They seem to rave harder about what their ancestorial linage isn't.

Most people don't mind just being Caucasian.

Some do.

They'll dog cuss you if you call them Caucasian.

I can see some white fella whose grandma was black, and is trying to identify as black, getting bent, but that's about it.

People who constantly rave about their ancestorial lineage remind me of the potato. The best part about them is underground!!!

Then you're not up on the topic. But that's okay. Most people aren't

I'm far from being a master at ancestry, but it's a little hobby of mine that I engage in from time to time.

Certain things become evident right off the bat.

You lot should be pleased I am not a Jew as I would foreclose on the lot of you and disrupt your internet connection.

Makes as much sense as some of the other crap being posted here.

Which part do you consider "crap"?

Every part that suggests it is more than a guess and somehow important enough to define ones view of oneself.

Every part that suggests it is more than a guess and somehow important enough to define ones view of oneself.

5% whigger's not too bad!

I've seen enough to know that it's more than a guess.

As for how it defines somebody, or how someone uses their linage (or assumed linage) to define themselves,...yeah, that's obviously questionable these days.

,...and some people aren't pleased with the answers.

"You're my kinda people!" Lol.

Yeah,...my linage turned out to be much more English than Irish,..which surprised me. There's a lot of gingers in my bunch and there's some Irish. But I got a bigger hit of the English.

The problem Bristoe is that the info interpretation changes often enough to put the whole shebang in the "guess" category.

Some relatives on my mother's side have been very involved with genealogy for years. It's been fairly easy to document the past 200 years or so, because a large part of the family has been living in the same area of western Kentucky for that long.

Many of my extended family on that side has sent DNA samples into ancestry.com. The results they came up with and the relatives they matched me to are pretty much 100% correct through several generations. Quite possibly more. But the family doesn't have exact documentation past that long.

It was very interesting to go to distant relatives trees and find photographs of my great grandparents that I had never seen before.

It was bound to happen.

https://khazardnaproject.wordpress.com/2017/08/29/shaming-23andme-works/

I am pleased for you, but you seem to have forgotten your original post and it's contents.

I didn't forget.

I'm just elaborating on my own experience because some people are saying that the tests are inaccurate.

It's been my experience that they are accurate.

Our son's wife bought him the 23andMe home genetic test for his last birthday and his results came back as 99.6 % Northern European.

All three of our kids have fair skin, blonde hair and blue eyes as does (should say did on the hair color now though) my wife and she has a documented direct bloodline Delaware Indian woman ancestor a ways back in her family ancestry.

It's not uncommon for full siblings and even identical twins, triplets, quads, etc., to have variances in their genetic test results

Red hair or "Gingers" and blue or green eyes is about as common in other northern as well as some middle European ethic groups as it is in the native born Irish.

A good many more native Irish don't have red hair than those that do, too.

You lot should be pleased I am not a Jew as I would foreclose on the lot of you and disrupt your internet connection.

Makes as much sense as some of the other crap being posted here.

And the internet...apparently.

“They control everything. But 23&me have exposed them”

Mein hund hat keine nase!

And then this happened.

https://khazardnaproject.wordpress.com/2017/08/29/shaming-23andme-works/

Yeah,...that must be it.

I watch Hogan’s Hero’s every night. Don’t understand a word y’all saying.

I watch Hogan’s Hero’s every night. Don’t understand a word y’all saying.

I think you’re witnessing the discovery of google translate by a couple Boomers.

Bob, your gonna give me nightmares about my two years in High School German classes! 😬

Go back and read my edit above!!!

Sorry Bristoe

I’ve been opening champagne bottles with my sabre tonight. Didn’t mean to hijack the thread.

Explain the data analysis he uses please, or at least try to.

It ain’t nighttime, it’s evening, not quite dusk, and the heathens cleaned out all the Liberty Creek Merlot from the local HEB Memorial Day weekend, left me with Cabernet, ain’t the same thing.

At least no skeeters on the front porch, seems they’re all inside the house.

Sorry Bristoe

I’ve been opening champagne bottles with my sabre tonight. Didn’t mean to hijack the thread.

I am coming to Texas some day......


Watch out!

Admittin you're not intelligent enough to understand the argument, is not a rebuttal *to* the argument.

Ain't my day ta try and override your inherent insufficiencies.

Maybe you should try 24andme.

Probably a better fit for ya.

Thought so

23 and me.

24 and me would be for aliens.

Takes a self-centered moron like you, ta think everbody else's purpose in life is ta explain complicated stuff ta your lame ass.

I'd try, but in reality I'd have better luck explainin quantum physics to my dog.

Anybody can do 23 and me.

Birdy is way better than that.

24 and me is perfect for his type of humanoid.

Anybody can do 23 and me.

Birdy is way better than that.

24 and me is perfect for his type of humanoid.

This thread should be titled “Old & Alone.”

When a baby is conceived by the combining of one sperm cell with one egg cell, the baby receives 23 chromosomes from each parent, for a total of 46 chromosomes. Sometimes, an accident in the production of a sperm or egg cell causes that cell to contain 24 chromosomes. This event is referred to as nondisjunction. When this defective cell is involved in the conception of a baby, that baby will have a total of 47 chromosomes. The extra chromosome in Down syndrome is labeled number 21.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Mongoloid+idiot

You is too slow ta get the easy parts.

Better not rush inta the more difficult areas.

You’ll figure it out.

Maybe.

Seriously Dude, ya got nothing better than that to do on a Saturday night?

...Among the most widely spoken Jewish languages to develop in the diaspora are Yiddish, Ladino, and the Judæo-Arabic group of languages. Yiddish is the Judeo-German language developed by Ashkenazi Jews who lived in Central and Eastern Europe before the Holocaust. Ladino, also called Judezmo and Muestra Spanyol, is the Judeo-Spanish language developed by Sephardic Jews who lived in the Iberian peninsula before the Spanish inquisition. Judeo-Catalan (also called Catalanic or Qatalanit), was the Jewish language spoken by the Jewish communities in Catalonia, Valencia, and the Balearic Islands. Judeo-Provençal (or Shuadit) was the Occitan language as it was historically spoken by French Jews although it was not a distinct language, and was indistinguishable from the Occitan spoken by non-Jews.[13]

Many ancient and distinct Jewish languages, including Judaeo-Georgian, Judeo-Arabic, Judeo-Berber, Krymchak and Judeo-Malayalam have largely fallen out of use due the impact of the Holocaust on European Jewry, the Jewish exodus from Arab lands, the assimilation policies of Israel in its early days and other factors.

Yiddish was the language spoken by the largest number of Jews in the 1850s, but today the three most commonly spoken languages among Jews are English, modern Hebrew, and Russian—in that order.[14]. Yiddish, as well as several other Jewish languages, has contributed to the vocabulary of coterritorial non-Jewish languages, such as English or French[15].

Kol Israel (Israel's public service broadcaster) has long maintained daily short news and features programming in many Jewish languages and dialects. For domestic audiences it broadcast in Iraqi Jewish Arabic (Yahudi) on its Arabic network. While producing: Yiddish, Ladino, Moroccan Jewish Arabic (Mughrabi or Marocayit), Bukharian (Central Asian dialect) and Judeo-Tat for both to domestic and overseas shortwave audiences in relevant areas. In addition, for over two decades from the late 1970s a daily 30 minute shortwave transmission was made to Yemen in Yemenite Jewish Arabic.

Radio Exterior de España, the Spanish International Public broadcaster, provides programming in Ladino, which they refer to as Sefardi.[16]

In the United States there are some local radio programs in Yiddish as there are also in Birobidzhan in Russia.

Judæo-Marathi (Marathi: जुदाव मराठी) is a form of Marathi spoken by the Bene Israel, a Jewish ethnic group that developed a unique identity in India and in Pakistan. Judæo-Marathi is, like other Marathi, written in the Devanagari script. It may not be sufficiently different from Marathi as to constitute a distinct language, although it is characterized by a number of loanwords from Hebrew and Aramaic as a result of influence from the Cochin Jewish community, Judæo-Malayalam and Portuguese and also some influence from the Urdu language.....

Well,....*I* don't have anything better to do.

I cut another Hawthorn tree out of the fencerow today and I'm whupped,......actually got through it without having to buy a new box of Bandaids.

Hawthorn wood is pretty dense. It was tough pushing the limbs through my chipper.

when a top student bales out of his mom’s car and approaches me desperate.

Tormenting the lame is the sport of the innernet.

It'd overtake porn, cept the pictures of mouthbreathin eyeflaps like you is thedouble-blind study confirmed cure for that 4 hour erection of lore.

That explains *so* much.

You think this is “torment”?

Clearly ya ain’t familiar with teenagers, that kid will knock that test outta the ballpark.

Central Time must stretch a long way.

Around here it starts about 85 miles west of here. I don't know where it ends.

There's a surprise.

Well, I've driven from the Eastern Time zone to the Pacific zone many times. But who pays attention to crossing a time zone?

This thread should be titled “Old & Alone.”

Well, I've driven from the Eastern Time zone to the Pacific zone many times. But who pays attention to crossing a time zone?

Did you ever notice those big fuggin’ signs on the side of the road that indicate that you’re in a new time zone?

Indeed, but it will pale in comparison to yours when you hit that age. Damn, that will be funny.