Talking to a lady friend of mine recently and her sister lives in Panama. Her sister invited her and her husband to move down there and live with her. She claims it's very cheap to live down there, but there's got to be some down side possible to take into consideration.
I also have some friends who moved to Ecuador and really like living there. Years ago I had friends who moved were snow birds in Mexico. Haven't kept up with them, but I really can't see an upside to that anymore. I just know that there are x-pats in Viet Nam, Thailand, Phillipines, and various other countries due to cheaper living.
Have any of you considered that? I haven't considered it seriously but I have to admit it's crossed my mind. Problem is many of those countries don't allow you to carry a handgun on your person. My answer, is if my gun, is not wanted, then neither am I. What's your take on this whole thing?
So far, this is the country everybody runs to when things get bad where they are from. There is a reason for this. As far as I'm concerned the USA is the last bastion....there is no place else to go.
I think about it all the time. If you don’t already have a plan, when you figure out you need one it’s too late. If you asked everyone on here how the next twenty years will play out, pretty much everyone will be way off. It’s not hard to imagine scenarios where things go downhill here faster than anyone imagines.
Talking to a lady friend of mine recently and her sister lives in Panama. Her sister invited her and her husband to move down there and live with her. She claims it's very cheap to live down there, but there's got to be some down side possible to take into consideration.
I also have some friends who moved to Ecuador and really like living there. Years ago I had friends who moved were snow birds in Mexico. Haven't kept up with them, but I really can't see an upside to that anymore. I just know that there are x-pats in Viet Nam, Thailand, Phillipines, and various other countries due to cheaper living.
Have any of you considered that? I haven't considered it seriously but I have to admit it's crossed my mind. Problem is many of those countries don't allow you to carry a handgun on your person. My answer, is if my gun, is not wanted, then neither am I. What's your take on this whole thing?
I got a friend that lives in Panama, also. Says its cheap to live down there, but from what I understand, you have to have proof of income. He loves it. I've never been there.
Yes there are many good options depending on your priorities. Some are a pipe dream due to money, but others are a dream because of money. In some countries in Europe your savings could essentially be doubled or tripled in buying power. Of course the countries come with culture, and you really have to assimilate, and that may be tough for some. Visiting and living are two different things. I personally see no barriers in many countries. Barriers being social acceptance, finances, medical services, crime.
The US can get frustrating, sometimes downright aggravating...but there's no place better. We don't have a dictator for life although we seemingly have congressmen for life. This is one of the few countries left in the world where gun ownership is legal and our freedoms of speech and religion are WAY ahead of anyone else's.
I spent some time in Nicaragua. While I met a lot of very humble people that were very nice, it is also very common to have all kinds of abuses we aren't used to seeing in the US. I'm talking about corruption in govt, bribery, that sort of thing. Also, human life isn't valued in most countries like it is in the US. Life is cheap elsewhere. I won't say financially you wouldn't be *richer* in another country, but the downside far outweighs any upside, for me. Like gun ownership, relative freedom, quality of life issues.
Let's face it, people in the US are so spoiled they can't even see how good they have it. Go somewhere else and see a real food shortage, or pay $8 for a loaf of bread or a roll of toilet paper, $5 for a litre of gas, or get kidnapped for ransom, and get back to me.
I have several friends / relatives that live in Panama, and are doing well. It's not the US. Sometimes, it's on the edge of Western Civilization. But, if money is an issue, the cost of living is very much cheaper there.
If you have to live on a very modest income, would you be willing to give up living in the US, vs reasonable standard of living in another place? I am doing my best to never having to answer that question.....
That said, there are some very nice rural places in South America with not many people (Argentina, Chile) with somewhat stable governments and inexpensive standards of living that I could probably get along just fine. Heck, even Eastern Russia has some places I could disappear into and be just fine. Central America is not my cup of tea.
Had an acquaintance who moved to Belize to live on the beach about 17 years ago. He said it was beautiful and cheap to live. He bought a nice ocean front home for 200K. I believe he is still there but I haven't seen him since. It would be hard for me to leave.
No way would I consider living outside of the United States. That said I would love to see all the azzhat liberals move to someplace they would appreciate.....like Venezuela.
We should revisit this next year, when it is closer to the election, and hear all of the people who claim that they will move to X if the Democrats win. (They won't - neither the Democrats win nor the threateners move.)
Seen enough of the gawtdamm planet to know you cant go to a fugging convenience store or a wally world at 249 am and buy nacho chips with jalapeno,s and cheese anywhere else on this planet, except the good ole U.S. OF FUGGING A. !!!
Name 1 fugging country on this planet that has the same rights and freedoms like a citizen of our country has.
The fugging "Quaint" factor living in some other country is for fugging Saps.....
Despite our (growing) problems, there is simply nowhere else that is better. The things we are losing they've already lost or given up. Someone with different interests, different values, different priorities might like it better somewhere else. More power to 'em, but I'm not going anywhere.
I have lived outside of the USA (enough) to realize I would rather be no where else. Although, my next move will be outside the CONUS.
I've traveled a lot outside the US, I would tend to agree. I cant imagine retiring to a third world country with third world healthcare. Visit, sure, Live, no thanks.
I have lived outside of the USA (enough) to realize I would rather be no where else. Although, my next move will be outside the CONUS.
I've traveled a lot outside the US, I would tend to agree. I cant imagine retiring to a third world country with third world healthcare. Visit, sure, Live, no thanks.
My family has farmed rice for several generations. In the mid 70s we considered moving to Australia as land was dirt cheap. Problem was marketing the crop and transportation to port or processing facilities. We even went there to look at land, machinery dealerships, their methods for irrigation, etc. In the end the risk was too high.
I've been fortunate to travel some and have worked for short periods of time in several countries. A week or two stay in some countries isn't a long enough stay to tell much about the place. But, on the other hand, some places I've worked, it only took a day, two at the most, to know that I wanted out of there just as quick as the job was over.
I knew a man (he's passed on) that said if Carter got elected he was leaving the US. Unlike half of Hollywood that said they'd leave if Trump was elected and didn't, he left. Spent 10-15 years abroad. Most of the time in Australia, but he spent some time in 5 or 6 different countries. When I met up with him again, in the mid 90's, I asked why he was back in the US. He stated that the US, with all its faults, was still the best country on earth.
Talking to a lady friend of mine recently and her sister lives in Panama. Her sister invited her and her husband to move down there and live with her. She claims it's very cheap to live down there, but there's got to be some down side possible to take into consideration.
I also have some friends who moved to Ecuador and really like living there. Years ago I had friends who moved were snow birds in Mexico. Haven't kept up with them, but I really can't see an upside to that anymore. I just know that there are x-pats in Viet Nam, Thailand, Phillipines, and various other countries due to cheaper living.
Have any of you considered that? I haven't considered it seriously but I have to admit it's crossed my mind. Problem is many of those countries don't allow you to carry a handgun on your person. My answer, is if my gun, is not wanted, then neither am I. What's your take on this whole thing?
The gun issue is just one example of a bunch of stuff many wouldn't like about most places. Freedom is habit-forming, and in no place will you have all the freedoms you enjoy here, assuming you don't live in one of the Liberal schittholes.
We almost moved to Zimbabwe in the early 90's. If we would of most likely we would of lost our lifes savings and maybe our lives. I understand the appeal of living abroad. But the risks are any time the government changes hands the entire country is in upheaval. Things to consider are inflation and property ownership. Many countries have extremely high VAT. I think Costa Rica is 100% so Panama shouldn't be to far away. Another issue is medical care. Not all insurances cover you if you reside in another country. We have no plans to move out now but if we did we would leave as many assets in the USA as we could and have a way of transferring money to a local bank.
I'm perfectly content to live out my days in rural Kentucky. But if I was a young American man of European ancestry knowing what I know,...I'd be spending time looking into where I'm going to go when people of European ancestry lose majority status in America.
It's one thing to be hated when you're the majority. It's going to be something totally different when your type makes up 40% of the country,....and that's going to happen very damn soon.
I do not want to visit another country much less live there . I worked in Ohio 1 week \ S C 1 month \ N Y city 7 months . lived in Fla my hole life . i am just not the traveling kind
I'm perfectly content to live out my days in rural Kentucky. But if I was a young American man of European ancestry knowing what I know,...I'd be spending time looking into where I'm going to go when people of European ancestry lose majority status in America.
It's one thing to be hated when you're the majority. It's going to be something totally different when your type makes up 40% of the country,....and that's going to happen very damn soon.
I am at a loss to give sage wisdom to the young pups. When we tilt majority brown it will be Lord of the Flies
Just watched an interesting documentary about Americans that moved to the Soviet Union during the depression.
They wanted skilled laborers to help build their country. At least they did until Stalin decided they were mostly spies and they started being hauled away in the night never to be seen again.
Of course the US consulate would do nothing for them. Thousands were hauled out into the forests, shot in the back of the head and buried in mass graves. Another perk of socialism.
I'm perfectly content to live out my days in rural Kentucky. But if I was a young American man of European ancestry knowing what I know,...I'd be spending time looking into where I'm going to go when people of European ancestry lose majority status in America.
It's one thing to be hated when you're the majority. It's going to be something totally different when your type makes up 40% of the country,....and that's going to happen very damn soon.
I am at a loss to give sage wisdom to the young pups. When we tilt majority brown it will be Lord of the Flies
Tell them to seek out the "take no schitt" Caucasians on the planet. There's still a few left in the world. Unfortunately, it's rapidly becoming illegal for Caucasians to "take no schitt" in America.
i've lived and traveled all over the world. 90% of the world is a schithole compared to the us. forget about europe unless you like paying huge taxes to support muzzies that hate you. have a few bucks in latin america and your ass will be kidnapped or robbed and murdered. phillipines is a schithole. nice weather but the poverty and corruption is staggering. indo china, same. japan is ridiculous. south korea ain't bad but the culture and language are a real barrier. korean women love americans though. hoo ha. so where does that leave? africa? middle east? ya the US is the only place to be. thats why everybody wants to come here.
that said, never been to australia. might be ok down that way. except for all the fuggen nasty schit that can kill you like spiders, crocs. giant sharks, etc.
or new zealand? i hear its nice as long as you don't like guns too much.
Seen enough of the gawtdamm planet to know you cant go to a fugging convenience store or a wally world at 249 am and buy nacho chips with jalapeno,s and cheese anywhere else on this planet, except the good ole U.S. OF FUGGING A. !!!
Name 1 fugging country on this planet that has the same rights and freedoms like a citizen of our country has.
The fugging "Quaint" factor living in some other country is for fugging Saps.....
LOL!!!
I spent the 1st 50 years of my life travelling the world and have lived in 1st and 3rd world countries. I have seen many places that I liked but none, in which I would choose to live if the USA were an option. Those that think other places are better are naive and have probably rarely left sight of their front porch and have no concept of what real freedom actually feels like.
Got Mexicans sneaking across the border, of course,...Guatemalans,...Trinadadian and Tobagians,...even caught some Congolese down there recently,...Congo-fuggin-"half a generation away from eating each other"-lese,....sneaking across the southern border.
When was the last time they caught a Hungarian trying to sneak across the U.S.A. southern border?
forget about europe unless you like paying huge taxes to support muzzies that hate you. .
Not in the Balkans.
ya but ain't the balkans pretty backwards and dangerous? kinda like romania, etc? i was in sarajevo right after the dust up in the 90's and it looked like a good place to get killed.
forget about europe unless you like paying huge taxes to support muzzies that hate you. .
Not in the Balkans.
ya but ain't the balkans pretty backwards and dangerous? kinda like romania, etc? i was in sarajevo right after the dust up in the 90's and it looked like a good place to get killed.
The 90's were a long time ago.
If U.S.A. crime doesn't bother you,..crime in the Balkans won't bother you. (Hardly any blacks in the Balkans)
forget about europe unless you like paying huge taxes to support muzzies that hate you. .
Not in the Balkans.
ya but ain't the balkans pretty backwards and dangerous? kinda like romania, etc? i was in sarajevo right after the dust up in the 90's and it looked like a good place to get killed.
The 90's were a long time ago.
If U.S.A. crime doesn't bother you,..crime in the Balkans won't bother you. (Hardly any blacks in the Balkans)
I have this mental picture of criscoe actually leaving this country and rounding a corner in some Balkan rural area only to be confronted by some equally bucolic locals w/ AKs. Let's all dress up and pretend that we know of what we speak. LMFAO.
Surprised so many haven't considered a move. I mean, those of European ancestry no longer have rights in America. Another reason to move one will not have to deal with fat and or ignorant people on daily basis and the news will likely not mention Donald Trump at all, great. You know, one can live perfectly well without a single American-made product. You can actually pretend that USA does not exist and live well doing so.
forget about europe unless you like paying huge taxes to support muzzies that hate you. .
Not in the Balkans.
ya but ain't the balkans pretty backwards and dangerous? kinda like romania, etc? i was in sarajevo right after the dust up in the 90's and it looked like a good place to get killed.
The 90's were a long time ago.
If U.S.A. crime doesn't bother you,..crime in the Balkans won't bother you. (Hardly any blacks in the Balkans)
I have this mental picture of criscoe actually leaving this country and rounding a corner in some Balkan rural area only to be confronted by some equally bucolic locals w/ AKs. Let's all dress up and pretend that we know of what we speak. LMFAO.
mike r
The topic isn't about me. Go have a circle jerk with the rest of the campfire trolls.
I would not go into countries that made up former Yugoslavia because Americans are not liked there. One does not want to find themselves where they're not welcome. Perhaps Ireland? If one does not mind possible future Moscow control Central European or Baltic States countries like: Estonia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungry, Poland, Romania,......If Russia and the USA (two countries with similar interests) come to terms Eastern Europe may again see Moscow supervision. That would be ok with me but some here might object.
Me leave? No, but there are a number of folks I'd like to export elsewhere. Democraps to some nice socialist country France, Somalia, Russia..... Not Costa Rica. I like that place. They would be sure to ef it up according to their lights, rather than the CR socialists's.
Or we could cut off CA at the hips and move all the Democraps there for their own country.
I would not go into countries that made up former Yugoslavia because Americans are not liked there. One does not want to find themselves where they're not welcome. Perhaps Ireland? If one does not mind possible future Moscow control Central European countries like: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungry, Poland, Romania,......Right now Poland and Romania are run out of American embassies in those countries, but if Russia and the USA (two countries with similar interests) come to terms Eastern Europe may again see Moscow supervision.
I would not go into countries that made up former Yugoslavia because Americans are not liked there. One does not want to find themselves where they're not welcome. Perhaps Ireland? If one does not mind possible future Moscow control Central European countries like: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungry, Poland, Romania,......Right now Poland and Romania are run out of American embassies in those countries, but if Russia and the USA (two countries with similar interests) come to terms Eastern Europe may again see Moscow supervision.
I would not go into countries that made up former Yugoslavia because Americans are not liked there.
They're not liked here, either.
I was a bit too pessimistic. For example, Slovenia might be good to go to. They have beautiful scenery and wine is also good.
,....too much influence from the lvmiker tribe in America these days.
All in all,....I think I could more easily get along with the Serbs.
The serbs would steal your lunch quicker than those of a more ebonic persuasion because you identify as one of nature's chosen victims. You often allude to others' tribes in a deprecatory manner, why do you not man up and be specific. You have, in your coy manner, alluded to me being a jew and a liar. I don.t believe for a minute that you would do so in person so relegate you to the rubbish pile of internet flapjaws. Where in the Balkans have you actually travelled?
I would not go into countries that made up former Yugoslavia because Americans are not liked there.
They're not liked here, either.
I was a bit too pessimistic. For example, Slovenia might be good to go to. They have beautiful scenery and wine is also good.
,....too much influence from the lvmiker tribe in America these days.
All in all,....I think I could more easily get along with the Serbs.
The serbs would steal your lunch quicker than those of a more ebonic persuasion because you identify as one of nature's chosen victims. You often allude to others' tribes in a deprecatory manner, why do you not man up and be specific. You have, in your coy manner, alluded to me being a jew and a liar. I don.t believe for a minute that you would do so in person so relegate you to the rubbish pile of internet flapjaws. Where in the Balkans have you actually travelled?
My wife is from Spain, and if I wanted to live there, she would go back. I like the Spanish food, lifestyle, people, fauna and flora, and weather. We have looked for housing, but haven't really seen anything that was a must have. Still looking.
I've traveled the world extensively and lived in five other countries apart from my own, including the U.S. and there's no other place I'd rather live than here in New Zealand.
I can go deer hunting in pristine wilderness 365 days of the year and rarely see anyone else out there. Don't need a hunting license either. Almost unlimited public land with good deer populations. I can fly fish for large rainbow and brown trout in crystal clear streams and rivers just about all year round, which I do need a license for. Fish in lakes all year round.
I can tell any politician or any other government agency exactly what I think of them, good, bad or indifferent and if they don't like it, too bad they have to suck it up regardless. I don't have to be PC to anyone either; too old for that crapola.
If the wife starts nagging, I just go to my man-cave and do some reloading or fly tying. I'm retired and have a good pension.
Sure, our young female, virtue signalling, Prime Minister and her lot has taken the AR15's and AK47's off the law abiding gun owners but I never had the need for any of those anyway. Besides, they'll be looking for a new job after the next election, nothing more sure.
Meanwhile, summer is nearly here and I've got two back to back deer hunting trips in very remote wilderness areas (helicopter access only) coming up in the next couple of weeks so life is good.
Criscoe again displays his very best effort. Tell us more of your travels in distant Montenegro and define kosher trolls.
mike r
I actually AM kosher, though my post count here is too low to really be a troll. Still, I think that of everyone who posts here, I keep kosher to a greater extent than anyone else I've run across. So I would like to throw my yarmulke in the ring for the title of Chief Kosher Troll of the Campfire.
Also, I'm a first generation American and while there are other places I enjoy visiting, I'm also so grateful for what the US has done for my family that I would never even consider turning my back on this country. It's far from perfect, but the founding principles remain the best the planet has ever seen. The problem is that those principles are being undermined and eroded, and the answer isn't to reward the saboteurs and curs by giving them control of what remains.
Not going anywhere. Been here all my days so far, and I am not leaving now. Might miss the opportunity to whack some commies. Tragic, that would be. I like it here, and the only real change I want to see is the crazies locked up, the traitors hanged, and the dead weight shed. Things keep going the way they are, I just might get all of it. Or not be around to see the disaster if we lose. Either way, I wouldn't miss it. Not for the world. Been waiting on it for a long while. Just wondering what will finally set it off. My people are so much more tolerant than I would have thought. Shame, that...
Have worked in South America and spent a fair amount of time in Argentina. There are some places there I have and could consider to live. Without the connections I have there, I am not sure I would be as interested.
Belize is a possibility. Have a friend that lives there about 90% of the year. Could maybe do that.
No way I’d leave the country that I love, the country that my forefathers died for and helped build. I’ve got too much at stake.....besides I’ve never been one to run from a fight.
We plan on moving our home base up to Alaska eventually which should provide some insulation for us and our honky kids. 😁 I’ll make my final stand up there and when the wolves come knocking on the door of the island we live on I’m sure they’ll be met with stiff resistance. That is if they can figure how to get there safely and disembark without being dropped before their sneakers touch terra firma. 😂
My perspective is different than others because the island we currently live on and the surrounding community have very very few minority’s, like 3/10’s of 1% are black, 8/10’s of 1% are Mexican, etc..........95.6% white! Consequently we have very little crime and a fairly harmonious and friendly community. If our politics weren’t dominated by the bullshit from the liberal city queers we’d be fat and happy.
Talking to a lady friend of mine recently and her sister lives in Panama. Her sister invited her and her husband to move down there and live with her. She claims it's very cheap to live down there, but there's got to be some down side possible to take into consideration.
I also have some friends who moved to Ecuador and really like living there. Years ago I had friends who moved were snow birds in Mexico. Haven't kept up with them, but I really can't see an upside to that anymore. I just know that there are x-pats in Viet Nam, Thailand, Phillipines, and various other countries due to cheaper living.
Have any of you considered that? I haven't considered it seriously but I have to admit it's crossed my mind. Problem is many of those countries don't allow you to carry a handgun on your person. My answer, is if my gun, is not wanted, then neither am I. What's your take on this whole thing?
Out of Australia...in a shot, straight down to Tassie.
Take that Taswegians.
Added for those not in the know...reference to Tassie being left off Australian map at Brisbane Games.
Been all over the lower 48, and a bit of Canada. No where else. Honestly, and this may seem silly, When I have been in Canada, I am constantly aware that I'm not home. No tangible reason, just a constant awareness. And am always glad to be back in America. (Even if it's New York or Detroit)
I hope that doesn't offend my Northern brothers, it's not meant to.
I’ve been living in an 80% Hispanic area for more’n 30 years and ain’t been racially persecuted or hated yet 🙄
A thing that could stop me from moving many places overseas is how easy it would be for them to despise a rich old dude (me) from America who has the freedom and money to just up and leave whenever.
Meanwhile.... I’d like to live a year in Costa Rica/Central America just to watch the ebb and flow of migratory birds through the seasons.
Wouldn’t mind a year back in England where I spent my childhood either.
I’d like to live a year on a bicycle following the seasons in North America, another year like that in Asia.
But.....
Ain’t no one mentioned family yet that I saw. My son and my granddaughter live here, which may well keep me grounded here. San Antonio ain’t a bad place to end up.
Unless of course all them Tex-Mexicans up and turn on us White people.....
I am seriously considering retiring abroad. I probably would not have except that my dad and step mom moved from WA State to Ecuador late in 2011. I have visited them twice and very much enjoyed the time there and the great birding. My wife went with me on the first trip and she did not enjoy it as much.
She and I plan to spend 2 weeks in Colombia in February next year to do some birding and general checking it out. My dad and step mom are very happy in Ecuador but he encourages me to check out Colombia before making any decisions.
I/we are 10+ years away from retirement so we have time to do some research and investigating. We will probably visit Panama and Costa Rica at some point. Costa Rica sounds more expensive than ideal though.
My motivations are that I am an adventurous person so I enjoy seeing new areas, I like bird watching/hiking, desire to find a pleasant year round climate, a lower cost of living which would more likely enable me to travel to other areas for adventure/birding, the USA is not the place it used to be and I really wonder if we will be able to avoid another Civil War and/or a financial melt down.
Some folks on this thread have mentioned crime. I live only about 15 miles from a bad area of South Bend, Indiana. Many shootings/killings there every year. Moving to Ecuador or Colombia may well be safer?
I spent 2 weeks in New Zealand back in 1987 when I was on my way to Australia to work a harvest at a winery. I really enjoyed New Zealand and would love to visit again. I suspect the cost of living is higher than I would like and am not sure I could find the favorable year round climate desired but I will do some research on both.
I am seriously considering retiring abroad. I probably would not have except that my dad and step mom moved from WA State to Ecuador late in 2011. I have visited them twice and very much enjoyed the time there and the great birding. My wife went with me on the first trip and she did not enjoy it as much.
She and I plan to spend 2 weeks in Colombia in February next year to do some birding and general checking it out. My dad and step mom are very happy in Ecuador but he encourages me to check out Colombia before making any decisions.
I/we are 10+ years away from retirement so we have time to do some research and investigating. We will probably visit Panama and Costa Rica at some point. Costa Rica sounds more expensive than ideal though.
My motivations are that I am an adventurous person so I enjoy seeing new areas, I like bird watching/hiking, desire to find a pleasant year round climate, a lower cost of living which would more likely enable me to travel to other areas for adventure/birding, the USA is not the place it used to be and I really wonder if we will be able to avoid another Civil War and/or a financial melt down.
Some folks on this thread have mentioned crime. I live only about 15 miles from a bad area of South Bend, Indiana. Many shootings/killings there every year. Moving to Ecuador or Colombia may well be safer?
I spent 2 weeks in New Zealand back in 1987 when I was on my way to Australia to work a harvest at a winery. I really enjoyed New Zealand and would love to visit again. I suspect the cost of living is higher than I would like and am not sure I could find the favorable year round climate desired but I will do some research on both.
Without solid connections in-country, I would shy away from Colombia. And by connections, I mean a local who has your back and preferably is fairly well-connected with the powers that be in that area. Uruguay would be easier to assimilate with no connections. Argentina and Chile the same.
One thing I have not seen mentioned is Exit Tax. Did you know that Dubya signed an IRS code into law that sticks you with @30% tax on your holdings if you change your permanent residency. Maybe it requires a citizenship change to trigger- not sure of that. But it should be a consideration. You are not going to legally sell your house, your cars, your furniture, cash out and fly out with no penalty.
Of course, you can always live elsewhere as a permanent resident, but fewer rights and no ability to vote are part of that wagon ride.
One thing I have not seen mentioned is Exit Tax. Did you know that Dubya signed an IRS code into law that sticks you with @30% tax on your holdings if you change your permanent residency. Maybe it requires a citizenship change to trigger- not sure of that. But it should be a consideration. You are not going to legally sell your house, your cars, your furniture, cash out and fly out with no penalty.
Of course, you can always live elsewhere as a permanent resident, but fewer rights and no ability to vote are part of that wagon ride.
We love our Idaho spread, blessed here. Thankful to be Americans. That said, we'd entertain living at least part time abroad, it would depend on the place and cost of living.
The truth is that the U.S. is absolutely full of non-English speaking lowlife aliens from other countries, our great nation is slowing becoming the S-hole many are describing about other places. I'd take my chances in parts of Mexico, Pan-America or Asia than in many parts of the U.S. Sad.
I can't believe some of the countries being mentioned as potential places to move to, particularly in Central and South America. Panama? Colombia? Ecuador? Mexico? My God - those places aren't even considered safe to get off the beaten path as a tourist. Why do you think it would be different if you actually lived there?
If not for family and friends, would live in Australia or New Zealand. Problems yes, but lots less than other spots I have been. Been in 51 countries and 47 States, so do have a little experience.
Nope. I lived and worked abroad in many places and while I enjoyed Calgary and Brisbane I could never wrap it up in either place. The rest were trash... I am pleased with the Texas Hill County and North Idaho until I drop dead.
I’ve known several people that have moved abroad and all did it for financial reasons. Living abroad in third world countries can be very cheap, especially if one can pay for a house.
I know a guy that lives with servants etc. in a three thousand square foot house in Goa, India for $600 a month. He’s not under weight!
The US is still the best. If I bought a place abroad it would be a second seasonal home.
Talking to a lady friend of mine recently and her sister lives in Panama. Her sister invited her and her husband to move down there and live with her. She claims it's very cheap to live down there, but there's got to be some down side possible to take into consideration.
I also have some friends who moved to Ecuador and really like living there. Years ago I had friends who moved were snow birds in Mexico. Haven't kept up with them, but I really can't see an upside to that anymore. I just know that there are x-pats in Viet Nam, Thailand, Phillipines, and various other countries due to cheaper living.
Have any of you considered that? I haven't considered it seriously but I have to admit it's crossed my mind. Problem is many of those countries don't allow you to carry a handgun on your person. My answer, is if my gun, is not wanted, then neither am I. What's your take on this whole thing?
Out of Australia...in a shot, straight down to Tassie.
Take that Taswegians.
Added for those not in the know...reference to Tassie being left off Australian map at Brisbane Games.
I thought Tasmania was in Africa.
Take that (part 2)!
No seriously Tassie is okay. They invented the toothbrush down there.
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Not Costa Rica. I like that place. They would be sure to ef it up according to their lights, rather than the CR socialists's.