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Posted By: KFWA National Lock Down in the wind - 03/16/20
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.
I've never seen insanity like this. Its just unreal.
Translation: Martial Law
Going to be a tough one to enforce.
Its like a hurricane warning in my area x 100.

Does this set the precedent for us to lose our minds every flu season?
Economic impacts of this whole mess will be unreal
Originally Posted by Calvin
Economic impacts of this whole mess will be unreal


Was thinking the same thing. Probably already in the billions and climbing rapidly.
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Going to be a tough one to enforce.



When walking around is outlawed, only outlaws will be out walking around. grin
Great , I am stuck in Michigan until tomorrow morning.

My daughter was supposed to have an elective surgery today. But late last night the office called and canceled it. So I am l hopefully flying out tomorrow
Shiit is about to get real.......
This country has just gone NUTS!
Health is tied to GDP

This goes on for 2 months and you have a huge segment of society now choosing between buying medicine, paying rent or eating
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Going to be a tough one to enforce.



When walking around is outlawed, only outlaws will be out walking around. grin


I have two young kids at home. Ain't no marshal law keeping me here. Jail might be more pleasant smile
Originally Posted by KFWA
Health is tied to GDP

This goes on for 2 months and you have a huge segment of society now choosing between buying medicine, paying rent or eating




Many folks who live pay check to pay check or can't work with kids at home are going to have a tough road ahead. My heart goes out to them.
In Champaign, IL, the mayor has given herself through executive action the power to halt gun, ammo, alcohol sales, shut off utilities and seize and take ownership of private property. When confronted about it the council stated that they had no intent of doing so.....probably making their subjects feel much better.
A national lockdown would mean no trucking - no deliveries of anything including medicines. Preposterous.

We are now panicking over rumors of rumors.

I apologize I don’t have the links but infectious disease doc Fauci, part of Trumps expert panel has said he would like a two-week complete shutdown to control the spread.

Another infectious disease expert, PhD doc (Minnesota) has estimated a high of maybe 480,000 deaths — that’s not your regular influenza season but on the order of 15-20 times worse than the worse flu season.

But a greater point may be that because the world has become so much smaller due to travel, of genetic-manipulation and nanotechnology, hostile nations and human nature, fighting deadly infectious diseases and agents may be a new normal.
In fugging Anchorage. Need a hall pass through SEATAC and I90 to home.... Tell your buds to shut'r down Wednesday, no sooner. Thanks
Definitely time for people to put their louis l’amour books down, get their head out of their asses and lissen up.

Lest being out of terlot paper being the smallest of a concern
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
In fugging Anchorage. Need a hall pass through SEATAC and I90 to home.... Tell your buds to shut'r down Wednesday, no sooner. Thanks


This virus came to WA through SeaTac. Be safe.
Some stuff just won’t shut down.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
A national lockdown would mean no trucking - no deliveries of anything including medicines. Preposterous.

We are now panicking over rumors of rumors.


Better stock up on black oil sunflower seeds.
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
In fugging Anchorage. Need a hall pass through SEATAC and I90 to home.... Tell your buds to shut'r down Wednesday, no sooner. Thanks


This virus came to WA through SeaTac. Be safe.

Yeah. It sucks to be heading through that heathen infested SOB! I'm self-isolating in a rental car today, LOL.
Originally Posted by viking
Some stuff just won’t shut down.



Agreed.
The media is getting a little more panic than they counted on when they decided this was a good crisis to hang on Trump.

Sounding more and more ever passing day like a, 'Perfect Storm / end of the world as we know it' scripted Hollywood movie or TV series.
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
The media is getting a little more panic than they counted on when they decided this was a good crisis to hang on Trump.



Like “oh [bleep], this is for real”. Bet they wish that they hadn’t cried wolf so many times.
How many times can the sky fall?
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.


But make sure not to buy more supplies than you ordinarily would. That would be wrong.
A "national lockdown" is FAR from Martial Law. If it happens (and it probably will), it will be restricted to the "social graces", public, private events, movies, restaurants etc. and things like for example, elective, non-essential medical procedures (cataract surgery comes to mind as an example). Everything else, like food deliveries, shopping, etc will go on. But hell, I'm for it just to stop the morons from panic buying and exponentially increasing the spread through all these crowds... morons..
Originally Posted by RJY66
I've never seen insanity like this. Its just unreal.


I couldn't agree more..

Originally Posted by viking
Some stuff just won’t shut down.
Good.... Gov't needs to be told - GFY..
Kentucky's Governor just had a news conference where he said that he would soon be shutting down all bars and restaurants.
Phugg marital law.

That's why I gots a dee vorce.
Could do long term damage to churches. People are going to be hesitant to expose themselves to large group settings from this year forward.

Wife and I have been dealing with this for years having a kid with immune system issues living at home. It shapes your decisions and lifestyle choices in a real way.
So with group size possibly being limited.........what the hell they gonna do about grocery stores?
Let in 25 with somebody at the door, let em shop for an hr, then clean, then let the next 25 in?
Guess a protest today at local factory.

I practice proper hygeine, and social distancing (hate everybody).

Haven't had the flu for about 20 yrs (and got it from a family gathering for Thanksgiving).
Had I not gone, it would have been 30 plus yrs.

Am not worried about me.
Do have a kid w fugged immune system.

Worry about her.
She catches everything on a good day LOL

We had one case in town. Expect the numbers to bump up bigtime by end of the week.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Could do long term damage to churches. People are going to be hesitant to expose themselves to large group settings from this year forward.

Wife and I have been dealing with this for years having a kid with immune system issues living at home. It shapes your decisions and lifestyle choices in a real way.


Like most things, when it is over it will be forgotten quickly.
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Could do long term damage to churches. People are going to be hesitant to expose themselves to large group settings from this year forward.

Wife and I have been dealing with this for years having a kid with immune system issues living at home. It shapes your decisions and lifestyle choices in a real way.


Like most things, when it is over it will be forgotten quickly.




I wish I had your faith.

Again, since wife and I have been in the mindset of protecting ourselves and the kid for a few years now once that takes root it's hard to shake. Since so many people are *afraid* beyond rational pre-cautionary measures with this virus and the surrounding media coverage, I wonder if that fear is enough of a motivator to permanently alter America. Not for *normal folks, but half the country isn't "normal".
We stocked up on food, it may get tough.
Here in Washington state, the governor has ordered a shut down of all bars & restaurants. Take out will be allowed. No gatherings of more than 50 persons. No martial law around here. The right to assembly has not been violated, just reasonably limited...
I'm no doctor nor an expert of any kind, however I am a level headed thinking man. Here is my take on all of this..

The first known case of this was in China in November. Does everyone really believe that this is just now being spread all over the world? Meaning, our first case was what, 3-4 weeks ago? Look how fast it's spreading, and that's KNOWN cases. Do you really think this virus stayed within China for 2-3 months without spreading throughout the world? NO FRIGGIN WAY! Not a chance with how fast this is spreading. Not to mention all of these numbers are KNOWN cases. There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of UNKNOWN cases because the symptoms are mild (common cold like symptoms). If you take that into account, then these serious condition and fatality numbers plummet.

I understand the thought process behind preventing, or flattening out the curve. But that's with the mindset that no one is infected that isn't known, which is absolutely asinine to think that. I am in no way minimizing the danger of this virus for people that are immune compromised. What I am saying is their data is not taking into account the hundreds of thousands that have this, or have had this and are fine, and never went to get tested or even went to the doctor and was told they just have a respiratory infection because the flu came back negative.

The impacts of lock downs will have a lasting effect on our economy as a whole, global, and CONUS. The healthcare system is going to collapse because people are going to have to choose between paying their medical bills, and rent. No bainer there.

Now one political party was heading into 2020 election with their platform being a booming economy, and the other political party platform was universal healthcare.

In comes panic, and fear and we have a crippled economy, and no one can pay for their medical bills.

That is just so... odd.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Going to be a tough one to enforce.



When walking around is outlawed, only outlaws will be out walking around. grin


Be a good time to round them up. wink
I just realized I have 14 cans of hormel chili, pop tops of nacho cheese

And only on bag of tortillas. Some heads are going roll by god.
That shutting off utilities ought to really help. People will start following Walmart trucks.

How about calling a joint session of congress, then nailing the doors shut?
Originally Posted by kennyd
That shutting off utilities ought to really help. People will start following Walmart trucks.

How about calling a joint session of congress, then nailing the doors shut?


What I'm thinking.
It will be interesting to see how the factories handle this. One big one near here employs 8000+ people.
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.
Never been more thankful to be in rural Idaho.
And honestly we haven't done anything special to prepare for this craziness, we're always ready for anything.
Originally Posted by randolph45
The impacts of lock downs will have a lasting effect on our economy as a whole, global, and CONUS. The healthcare system is going to collapse because people are going to have to choose between paying their medical bills, and rent. No bainer there.

Now one political party was heading into 2020 election with their platform being a booming economy, and the other political party platform was universal healthcare.

In comes panic, and fear and we have a crippled economy, and no one can pay for their medical bills.

That is just so... odd.
And lookie who loves those Marxist bastards - the news media.
Originally Posted by slumlord
I just realized I have 14 cans of hormel chili, pop tops of nacho cheese

And only on bag of tortillas. Some heads are going roll by god.


Gonna test that TP supply that hard....this early in the crisis?
Originally Posted by slumlord
Definitely time for people to put their louis l’amour books down, get their head out of their asses and lissen up.

Lest being out of terlot paper being the smallest of a concern


And I approve this message...Yup
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by slumlord
I just realized I have 14 cans of hormel chili, pop tops of nacho cheese

And only on bag of tortillas. Some heads are going roll by god.


Gonna test that TP supply that hard....this early in the crisis?


Going to need the GOOD STUFF too!
Not that thin crap you're giving to mom and the kids
Posted By: 79S Re: National Lock Down in the wind - 03/16/20
I been down in the crawl space working on a vaccine.. I wonder if Jim Conrad would volunteer to be the lab rat??

IF people do what we are being asked to do, this should be short term. Schools are closing, going virtual, major get together events are cancelled, they are making it pretty hard to actually get into big crowds, if people apply some common sense we should stifle this out fairly quickly

Economy is in the toilet, but hopefully that's a short term blip

They also started human trials of a vaccine.
Originally Posted by logcutter
Originally Posted by slumlord
Definitely time for people to put their louis l’amour books down, get their head out of their asses and lissen up.

Lest being out of terlot paper being the smallest of a concern


And I approve this message...Yup

Those books are good backup to toilet paper
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

IF people do what we are being asked to do, this should be short term. Schools are closing, going virtual, major get together events are cancelled, they are making it pretty hard to actually get into big crowds, if people apply some common sense we should stifle this out fairly quickly

Economy is in the toilet, but hopefully that's a short term blip

They also started human trials of a vaccine.

Bob, the idea is not to get it over with quickly. The hope is to stretch it out a bit, so as to not overwhelm our health care facilities as has happened in Italy. Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus. Hopefully, over the course of six to eight months, rather than within three months.

A vaccine would be God sent. But none has become available for Sars or Mers, which are also Corona virus. I hope present research shows rapid development. But, if I was betting, I would bet this crises is over before the vaccine hits the streets.
Local news just reported a few pregnant women did NOT pass the corona virus on to their delivered babies. Also, the mothers all FULLY RECOVERED.
Originally Posted by kennyd


How about calling a joint session of congress, then nailing the doors shut?



With the virus inside? Good idea
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

IF people do what we are being asked to do, this should be short term. Schools are closing, going virtual, major get together events are cancelled, they are making it pretty hard to actually get into big crowds, if people apply some common sense we should stifle this out fairly quickly

Economy is in the toilet, but hopefully that's a short term blip

They also started human trials of a vaccine.

Bob, the idea is not to get it over with quickly. The hope is to stretch it out a bit, so as to not overwhelm our health care facilities as has happened in Italy. Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus. Hopefully, over the course of six to eight months, rather than within three months.

A vaccine would be God sent. But none has become available for Sars or Mers, which are also Corona virus. I hope present research shows rapid development. But, if I was betting, I would bet this crises is over before the vaccine hits the streets.


I would prefer an effective anti-viral tx.
So, if we have this lockdown, is Micky Ds going to be closed down?

Anyone driving through those joints now getting burgers with lettuce and tomatoes on them in areas with active Corona cases.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
So, if we have this lockdown, is Micky Ds going to be closed down?

Anyone driving through those joints now getting burgers with lettuce and tomatoes on them in areas with active Corona cases.

Stopped in a Hardee's at lunch, no napkin holders on the tables, no cup lids or straws or anything out. All behind the counter and everything comes in a bag, no trays. Never one of the places so clean.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.

I Totally Don't Have 240 Rolls.
Trump says that false rumors from abroad are fueling this. There are no plans for a national shutdown.

FALSE RUMORS
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.


I figure you don't want to let anyone know what you have.
Remove head from azz, then type.
National lockdown would just mean rules the same for all states- no large gatherings, schools closed, restaurants take out only.
This will take the pressure off each state for having to decide this.
Trucking, shipping, and commerce will carry on.
The president is a businessman, not a knuckle dragging idiot who is a power whore. If this was 5 years ago, who knows what would have taken place.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus.

Simply not true. There are many people who almost never catch cold or flu. It's because of good habits on their part. If what you are saying were true, the person with good habits who avoided the 2016 flu, will eventually get the 2016 flu. Not true. The 2016 flu is dead and gone. It's like a pasture fire. It passes through an area, and keeps going, but there's not a trace of it left behind after it's passed through a particular area. Any creature that avoided getting burned by it when it passed over, can now come out from hiding without fear of the fire coming back and getting them. Those who didn't get the 2016 flu now benefit from those who got it, and are now immune, providing a kind of firewall against it coming back.
Originally Posted by KenMi
Remove head from azz, then type.
National lockdown would just mean rules the same for all states- no large gatherings, schools closed, restaurants take out only.
This will take the pressure off each state for having to decide this.
Trucking, shipping, and commerce will carry on.
The president is a businessman, not a knuckle dragging idiot who is a power whore. If this was 5 years ago, who knows what would have taken place.


You betcha.
National lockdown will mean forums change to 50% discussion of Netflix and Pornhub favorites.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.

I Totally Don't Have 240 Rolls.

And I don't have 50, but that should last me several months. I'm just one guy.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.


But make sure not to buy more supplies than you ordinarily would. That would be wrong.


I doubled down on yogurt this week, as I'm on antibiotics for a sinus infection.

I'm no prepper. But I do have a freezer and use it quite well to shop for food at good prices and keep it.

And it's always been our supply policy to have an extra of everything we need on the shelf or in the pantry. If you buy TP in a costco bale and have an extra on the shelf you're good to go. I mean go.. You know, go...

We're light on bread as we buy it fresh and as needed. Long on dried beans and rice as we use them often and keep enough on hand that we don't need to run to town when we use them.

Pancake mix, corn meal, flour, sugar... we have enough

The wife did mention she brought home a bulk container of rolled oats, so maybe she's a prepper...

Anyway, she's up in Wisconsin with the grandkids who are on a romp, it seems. On my own with all this chow. Lock me in and great stuff might happen...
Originally Posted by KenMi
Remove head from azz, then type.
National lockdown would just mean rules the same for all states- no large gatherings, schools closed, restaurants take out only.
This will take the pressure off each state for having to decide this.
Trucking, shipping, and commerce will carry on.
The president is a businessman, not a knuckle dragging idiot who is a power whore. If this was 5 years ago, who knows what would have taken place.


Yes and no. Trucks will eventually come off the road.

1. Drivers will want to be home, taking care of families
2. Spot rates will sharply rise. Today and tomorrow will be cheap compared to rest of the week. If it continues to get worse or a lockdown is enacted - a ton of capacity will leave the market. Supply chains will break and those drivers still working will demand a ton of money to move items people can't buy because the store is closed. Shipper just wont pay and more capacity leaves the market. Closing restaurants because there's >50 people is no different than closing Walmart >50 people. Both would likely happen.
3. People who have to stay home aren't going on a shopping spree. A LOT of commerce WILL shut down.

32% of all outbound trucking tenders in Quincey IL are being rejected as capacity searches for high $$ freight. National average is just under 10%. 2 weeks ago it was 5%.
Wonder if drivers will get extra pay to stay on road, offset expenses of home due to panic.
They could keep em motivated if they wanted.
Originally Posted by hookeye
Wonder if drivers will get extra pay to stay on road, offset expenses of home due to panic.
They could keep em motivated if they wanted.


They get it in the rate. Shippers are competing with water, TP, food and produce loads for available capacity. It will extend a lifeline to the carriers that are holding on from 2019.

Eventually home starts demanding you take care of it - in person.

HOS exemption isn't the silver bullet they think it is either. Lots to it.
When I drove, it always worried me a little about a SHTF situation where interstate traffic was shut down. I spent 3 days at a Pilot because of a snowstorm once. I read a lot, but 72 hours of sleeping and reading, eating truckstop fast food is enough to turn a fellow into Jack Nickleson in the Shining!
The PA Turnpike is gonna close the travel plazas now. Guys are gonna have to live out of a cooler. I hope to hell things straighten out before too long. No telling what’s gonna happen after 3 or 4 weeks.
I got TP and ammo, but if the supermarkets get shut down, my canned stuff and freezer might get worked over pretty good. I hate to hafta start killing emergency rations in the spring! grin
7mm
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus.

Simply not true. There are many people who almost never catch cold or flu. It's because of good habits on their part. If what you are saying were true, the person with good habits who avoided the 2016 flu, will eventually get the 2016 flu. Not true. The 2016 flu is dead and gone. It's like a pasture fire. It passes through an area, and keeps going, but there's not a trace of it left behind after it's passed through a particular area. Any creature that avoided getting burned by it when it passed over, can now come out from hiding without fear of the fire coming back and getting them. Those who didn't get the 2016 flu now benefit from those who got it, and are now immune, providing a kind of firewall against it coming back.


Simply true. He said EXPOSED. That doesn't mean you catch it and most healty people won't. That doesn't change whether they're exposed.
I think China should forgive the US debt for starting this crap! smile
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

IF people do what we are being asked to do, this should be short term. Schools are closing, going virtual, major get together events are cancelled, they are making it pretty hard to actually get into big crowds, if people apply some common sense we should stifle this out fairly quickly

Economy is in the toilet, but hopefully that's a short term blip

They also started human trials of a vaccine.

Bob, the idea is not to get it over with quickly. The hope is to stretch it out a bit, so as to not overwhelm our health care facilities as has happened in Italy. Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus. Hopefully, over the course of six to eight months, rather than within three months.

A vaccine would be God sent. But none has become available for Sars or Mers, which are also Corona virus. I hope present research shows rapid development. But, if I was betting, I would bet this crises is over before the vaccine hits the streets.


I would prefer an effective anti-viral tx.


Jag, do the major available anti-virals work with this virus?

And now there's a texting spoof/hoax flying around, got this from work:

If you were not aware, many are getting a text message telling them that “a friend at DHS” was in a meeting and was aware that the President will invoke the Stafford Act in 48-72 hours to establish a US-wide quarantine 2-3 weeks. The NSC and many news sources are getting the work out that this is a fake viral text.

My company works with DHS, etc A LOT, they are aware of this and trying to get the word out, some ashhole is spamming people via texts.
Correction. Montana, all schools shutdown.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Eventually, every one of us shall be exposed to this virus.

Simply not true. There are many people who almost never catch cold or flu. It's because of good habits on their part. If what you are saying were true, the person with good habits who avoided the 2016 flu, will eventually get the 2016 flu. Not true. The 2016 flu is dead and gone. It's like a pasture fire. It passes through an area, and keeps going, but there's not a trace of it left behind after it's passed through a particular area. Any creature that avoided getting burned by it when it passed over, can now come out from hiding without fear of the fire coming back and getting them. Those who didn't get the 2016 flu now benefit from those who got it, and are now immune, providing a kind of firewall against it coming back.
Simply true. He said EXPOSED. That doesn't mean you catch it and most healty people won't. That doesn't change whether they're exposed.

In epidemiological terms, exposed to the virus means you contracted it. When you contract it, you may never become symptomatic, but your immune system will respond to it either way. But it's not true that everyone will be exposed to it, in the sense I mean.

Exposed, in epidemiological terms, doesn't mean that you were just near someone who had it, but never contracted it, which is the sense you seem to be suggesting.
Posted By: sse Re: National Lock Down in the wind - 03/16/20
i hope this doesn't lead to large numbers of people exposing themselves...?!
Drivers will haul as long as there is something to haul and fuel to haul it.

Phil
Originally Posted by teal


Yes and no. Trucks will eventually come off the road.

1. Drivers will want to be home, taking care of families
2. Spot rates will sharply rise. Today and tomorrow will be cheap compared to rest of the week. If it continues to get worse or a lockdown is enacted - a ton of capacity will leave the market. Supply chains will break and those drivers still working will demand a ton of money to move items people can't buy because the store is closed. Shipper just wont pay and more capacity leaves the market. Closing restaurants because there's >50 people is no different than closing Walmart >50 people. Both would likely happen.
3. People who have to stay home aren't going on a shopping spree. A LOT of commerce WILL shut down.

32% of all outbound trucking tenders in Quincey IL are being rejected as capacity searches for high $$ freight. National average is just under 10%. 2 weeks ago it was 5%.


I've got a driver on the road right now with a COVID case at home. Meaning, he CAN'T go home! Not allowed in the house. So, he's driving the wheels off the truck.
Locally they went to condition yellow.
No gathering in groups of ten or more.
No restaurant dining, movies, gyms or bars.

Can only go to work, grocery, food from drive through/ carry out.

Said it might change.

Current deal is for 60 days.

Dude that tested positive has passed. Supposedly had serious health issue prior. Rumor is another has tested positive. Not verified and not associated w patient #1.
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.



Where’s all those that loved to call some of us “tin foil hat” wearers? Those of us that chose to do a little bit of preparing for hard times.......don’t look so stupid now! I think those that “had there heads in the sand”, or wherever they had there head.....may be the ones looking pretty stupid now! Whether this is real, or a media created crisis, the end result is the same. People are in “deep doo doo” because they can’t get supplies and chose “not” to use the brain that God gave them to do a little “prepping”! You usually “reap from the seeds you throw”! memtb
First will be curfew's and riots... wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in truck thefts. Hate to think about what might come next, won't be good.

Phil
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by teal


Yes and no. Trucks will eventually come off the road.

1. Drivers will want to be home, taking care of families
2. Spot rates will sharply rise. Today and tomorrow will be cheap compared to rest of the week. If it continues to get worse or a lockdown is enacted - a ton of capacity will leave the market. Supply chains will break and those drivers still working will demand a ton of money to move items people can't buy because the store is closed. Shipper just wont pay and more capacity leaves the market. Closing restaurants because there's >50 people is no different than closing Walmart >50 people. Both would likely happen.
3. People who have to stay home aren't going on a shopping spree. A LOT of commerce WILL shut down.

32% of all outbound trucking tenders in Quincey IL are being rejected as capacity searches for high $$ freight. National average is just under 10%. 2 weeks ago it was 5%.


I've got a driver on the road right now with a COVID case at home. Meaning, he CAN'T go home! Not allowed in the house. So, he's driving the wheels off the truck.



Dang. Good luck to your driver.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.



The government workers will still be there to fee and tax us into bankruptcy. Local politicians, county and city, will close down services and ask us to keep them afloat. We gotta fork over, so they all keep jobs and bennies.

I don't think the private workers and small businessmen will go down for them quietly. Keep your powder dry.
Theres literally 2 cases within an hours radius of us and supply houses are starting to talk 2 week shut down. I'm ordering 4 weeks worth of lumber to 5 jobs tomorrow and should be able to keep everyone that wants, working. We work groups of 4-8 men per job and can easily keep 5' apart and wash hands as much as possible. Told them to not share tools etc. And if you feel flu like symptoms, stay the [bleep] home. See what happens......

I can see it impacting our future jobs more than now.
My biggest worry is getting paid for work in progress if the banking system gets too stressed.
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.





This is pretty much a real life scenario of a book that I read about 20 years go.......Patriots - Surviving the Coming Collapse! They world as they know it “sheit the bed” because of a financial collapse. Only in our present situation a medical pandemic is bringing on economic collapse! A - 2 for 1......gotta love it! memtb
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out........




OK


Mike
Posted By: sse Re: National Lock Down in the wind - 03/17/20
Originally Posted by Greyghost
First will be curfew's and riots... wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in truck thefts. Hate to think about what might come next, won't be good.

Phil

ridiculous
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.

No one missing the "work" of politicians . Hmmmmmm
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Going to be a tough one to enforce.



When walking around is outlawed, only outlaws will be out walking around. grin


^^^Made me laugh.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by slumlord
I just realized I have 14 cans of hormel chili, pop tops of nacho cheese

And only on bag of tortillas. Some heads are going roll by god.


Gonna test that TP supply that hard....this early in the crisis?


Now is the time to survey your terlot brushes.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.

I Totally Don't Have 240 Rolls.


You getting close to home yet? Keep us posted. Although, I haven’t been posting much, I’ve been following.
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him there are a lot of numbskulls posting salacious and damaging rumors, and predicting disaster, at a time when too many in the population are acting badly in response to such tripe. Shouldn't be surprising I guess.
I went with a buddy to buy him a home defense shotgun today. What a joke. After three stops, we ended up at sportsman whorehouse and got him the last Mossberg 500 they had. The ammo shelves were mostly bare and the line to buy what guns they had left was four deep at the counter. I don't think there is a home defense shotgun left in Western Washington.
Starting to look real cowboy soon.
Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.





This is pretty much a real life scenario of a book that I read about 20 years go.......Patriots - Surviving the Coming Collapse! They world as they know it “sheit the bed” because of a financial collapse. Only in our present situation a medical pandemic is bringing on economic collapse! A - 2 for 1......gotta love it! memtb


Gee, thanks, Mr. Cheerful! I remember that book well and may still have it around.
Originally Posted by KenMi
Remove head from azz, then type.
National lockdown would just mean rules the same for all states- no large gatherings, schools closed, restaurants take out only.
This will take the pressure off each state for having to decide this.
Trucking, shipping, and commerce will carry on.
The president is a businessman, not a knuckle dragging idiot who is a power whore. If this was 5 years ago, who knows what would have taken place.


Actually, this DID take place 5 years ago, except the Democrat media didn't promote it. This is the scariest part. The media still controls America.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.



Yep.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.



Yep.


I hope it's more fun than the paid vacation I get during every other crisis.



This is pretty much a real life scenario of a book that I read about 20 years go.......Patriots - Surviving the Coming Collapse! They world as they know it “sheit the bed” because of a financial collapse. Only in our present situation a medical pandemic is bringing on economic collapse! A - 2 for 1......gotta love it! memtb[/quote]

Gee, thanks, Mr. Cheerful! I remember that book well and may still have it around.[/quote]

SockPuppet, That’s why I’m here.....to lighten the mood! Hey, in the end......the good guys won! wink memtb
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by teal


Yes and no. Trucks will eventually come off the road.

1. Drivers will want to be home, taking care of families
2. Spot rates will sharply rise. Today and tomorrow will be cheap compared to rest of the week. If it continues to get worse or a lockdown is enacted - a ton of capacity will leave the market. Supply chains will break and those drivers still working will demand a ton of money to move items people can't buy because the store is closed. Shipper just wont pay and more capacity leaves the market. Closing restaurants because there's >50 people is no different than closing Walmart >50 people. Both would likely happen.
3. People who have to stay home aren't going on a shopping spree. A LOT of commerce WILL shut down.

32% of all outbound trucking tenders in Quincey IL are being rejected as capacity searches for high $$ freight. National average is just under 10%. 2 weeks ago it was 5%.


I've got a driver on the road right now with a COVID case at home. Meaning, he CAN'T go home! Not allowed in the house. So, he's driving the wheels off the truck.


Crap Dutch,

best wishes for your driver and hopefully the rest of your crews..............and you and family of course.

Geno
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.

I Totally Don't Have 240 Rolls.


You getting close to home yet? Keep us posted. Although, I haven’t been posting much, I’ve been following.


Wondering here too.

Hope you make it home soon Boomer.

Kingston, enjoy them ribeyes.

Geno
Did a little on line checking. CDC says from Oct 1,2019 through Mar 7,2020 there were between 25,000 and 50,000 U.S. deaths from Flu, not corona, just common flu. So far this corona crap seems much ado about nothing.

If you feel this virus is a world killer, give me some solid numbers.
On top of that say someone has heart disease with repeated bouts of congestive heart failure or advanced COPD. They get the bug and die, chalk up one for the bug, underlying gets only a "contributing" passing acknowledgment.. If they don't get the bug and die from the underlying disease no credit for the bug. But they are dead anyway.. Statistics is a funny science.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I would not in the least bit be surprised to see ANYTHING happen. People are going nuts over this. May be time to drag out the heavy artillery......lol.

Dont let anyone know you have toilet paper.

I Totally Don't Have 240 Rolls.


You getting close to home yet? Keep us posted. Although, I haven’t been posting much, I’ve been following.


Wondering here too.

Hope you make it home soon Boomer.

Kingston, enjoy them ribeyes.

Geno

Made it through AK security. It's not "as" nuts as the south sounds. Restaurant just started bottled beverages and disposable servingwear only here....
I just felt like posting this - will keep you awake anyway.

Originally Posted by nighthawk
I just felt like posting this - will keep you awake anyway.


You found that schit tolerable to view once? Let alone worthy of posting? Have you considered therapy?

WOW!!!
Lighten up, it's a parody of itself and a disdain for control by a central government stated with hyperbole, tongue in cheek. (Internet radio smooth jazz playing in the background right now)..
Originally Posted by Valsdad


Crap Dutch,

best wishes for your driver and hopefully the rest of your crews..............and you and family of course.

Geno


Thanks. We’re keeping his family supplied with whatever they need, and so far it’s looking ok.

Sales are way off, and we may have to start feeding half rations next week. Interesting times.....
Pleasantly surprised that SeaTac wasn't at all fubar as I had anticipated. No paramilitary, there's hand sanitizer readily available for purchase, and some hotties, with and without masks. There's no snow? That might be globular warmaling...
Hotties with and without masks... no pics?
Originally Posted by KFWA
Heard from a friend who hangs out with some Washington elites that they told him we are 48 -72 hours away from Trump issuing a national lock down similar to what Ohio and Illinois is currently doing.

Shouldn't be surprising I guess, we may be days away from collapsing not only the economy but more importantly the health care system.




lmao
Originally Posted by Greyghost
First will be curfew's and riots... wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in truck thefts. Hate to think about what might come next, won't be good.

Phil



another idiotic post
Posted By: sse Re: National Lock Down in the wind - 03/17/20
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Greyghost
First will be curfew's and riots... wouldn't be surprised to see an increase in truck thefts. Hate to think about what might come next, won't be good.

Phil



another idiotic post

one of his many
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
The first casualty will be small business owners and employees. With no deep public funded pockets, this segment of the population will be devastated. Bars, restaurants, clothing stores, food stores, local supply firms. Literally millions will be in desperate situations.
Government workers, teachers, cops, bureaucrats, politicians and so forth will sail by, taking a paid vacay. This could get damn ugly.



Yep.


I hope it's more fun than the paid vacation I get during every other crisis.

Yep, and I volunteered for the last hurricane, did not see home for 10 days IIRC, working daylight till dark, and getting called out all night long, boy it was a super vacation. Shower standing up in the clothes I had on at times.... just to get a rinse and another call.... Just pure joy.
Originally Posted by kingston
Hotties with an without masks... no pics?

I wasn't going to be "that guy" , today. Too tired to do it without getting caught.

Home sweet home. Left here Christmas Day.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by kingston
Hotties with an without masks... no pics?

I wasn't going to be "that guy" , today. Too tired to do it without getting caught.

Home sweet home. Left here Christmas Day.


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