This could get interesting. Maybe we'll sue the Sioux in Sioux Falls.

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (Dakota News Now) - Governor Noem has given two South Dakota tribes 48 hours to remove road checkpoints put in place to help stop the spread of COVID-19.

The checkpoints were put in place by the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and Oglala Sioux Tribe in early April.

According to a press release from Governor Noem's office, the tribes did not consult with the state before installing the checkpoints.

The release goes on to say that if the checkpoints are not removed in the next 48 hours, the state will take necessary legal action.

Governor Noem sent letters to Chairman Harold Frazier of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and President Bear Runner of the Oglala Sioux Tribe demanding that checkpoints be removed from State and US Highways.

“We are strongest when we work together; this includes our battle against COVID-19,” said Governor Noem. “I request that the tribes immediately cease interfering with or regulating traffic on US and State Highways and remove all travel checkpoints.”

On April 8, 2020, the US Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Indian Affairs (DOI) issued a memorandum regarding South Dakota tribal government authority to close or restrict travel on State and US Highways.

The memo makes it clear that tribes must consult with the state of South Dakota and enter into an agreement with the state before closing or restricting travel on State or US Highways.

Neither consultation nor agreement among the tribal and state government occurred.

Regardless, the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and the Oglala Sioux Tribe established checkpoints on State and US Highways to control and restrict non-tribal member trav


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We they charging a crossing fee?

thats racist!

For the casino maybe. Pay your minimum now and save time getting to the machines.

And what's wrong with that anyway, they're a sovereign nation. Just don't try it going the other way.

It’s been an ongoing thing but hasn’t made much news, must not have been much conflict. I assume they are armed. Reminiscent of the goon squads, “guardians of Oglala nation” days.

If there are any hotheads it's gonna be with the Oglala, historically so. The Sissitonai here just stare and shake their heads watching them screw up a good thing.

Oh hell I don't know. Maybe what tourists there are would enjoy being stopped by bands of Indians with guns and Kriti is trying to get the word out.

Yes, illegal to block traffic on a state hwy. If I was going through, would tell them to pound sand. They do not want people stopping, great! I do everything I can to avoid stopping when traveling through.

They want to be sovereign, let them. Put up a wall and let them fend for themselves. If we could keep them in Pine Ridge, the crime stats would drop dramatically in Rapid City.

Pine Ridge is one the most beautiful pieces of country in SD. Once you look past the garbage, junkyards, trashed houses, and wandering critters.

BTW, the Pine Ridge president was just arrested for DUI and threatening. This is after he spouts off about sobriety.

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/resmurs-case-reservation-murders
The Oglala’s have a history of violence, interesting read from the past.

Send in the NG, round em up, then scalp em.

Problem solved.

We’ll give you some blankets if you’ll take down the checkpoints.

If they are their own nation, Then why in the HECK do they get to vote in OUR elections???????

Bring me 30 beaver and 50 muskrat pelts and I will give you red cloth.

Now thats a very good bargain for you!

3ft of anal beads with a Tecumseh handle on it.

LMFAO!!!

Boy, that escalated quickly.

Good trade!

Just drop off a couple of cases of Old Grandad as a peace offering and call it good.

And have em sit Indian style. Ya know...face-down in the gravel.

😃

I still catch myself about to click on the "Indian Artifacts" threads.



We call MacDonald's bags and Twisted Tea bottles in the ditch..........Indian Artifacts.



WalMart bag full of diapers? Yep. Assiniboine.

Now that’s funny

Wounded knee II

IIRC there’s a former AIM guy on Pine Ridge who has claimed that at least one young White woman was raped and murdered during the occupation at Wounded Knee, said young woman having gone out to support the Indians.

I was there twice; in ‘83 when I brung a truckload of blankets out there a regular guy with a family brung me up on the hill to the burial pit and chapel. Mid-February, snow on the ground, a cold wind blowing, really gave a sense of the tragedy.

Second time was twenty years later, end of June, we drove through there coming back from the Little Big Horn/Devil’s Tower/Sturgis. The whole place had changed a lot, a lot more houses than I remembered.

One of the AIM guys had built a “Wounded Knee Museum” on the road right next to the hill. Not much in there but photographs.

The local elementary school was having a bake sale right across the street from the hill. Those ladies were good people. They told us the AIM guy who built the museum was the biggest drug dealer on Pine Ridge.

More’n a few Indians in San Antonio, I’ve taught some of their kids, met their parents, some of whom were nominally AIM people. Only reason I point that out is to say just ‘cause they were AIM doesn’t mean they supported all that criminal crap.

"https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/resmurs-case-reservation-murders"

Was a time I'd get angry about that on reflex. Was a time.

Sad isn't it. Got friends who are Sissetonai-Wahpeton members. Nice people so long as you don't bring up Chippewa. Old enmity die hard.You have to understand the culture. Was talking with a nice lady in the supermarket line some years ago. The general discussion in the community was some payment to the tribe and we talked about it.

She agreed that it was a boon for the tribe. but she finished with, "If they are dumb enough to give it to us we're smart enough to take it." We shared a laugh.

Anyway the Cheyenne River chairman is feeling his oats and issued a statement. KELO scroll down if you careSo far it's all posturing. Will be interesting to see where it goes, this sort of thing usually runs out of steam quickly.

I think the hidden motivation is not Covid19 but their anger about not getting their way in stopping the Keystone XL pipeline as well as being pissed about Gov. Noem's steadfast intent to slam down any pipeline protests that tend towards being unruly or violent.

Made contact with an Indian rancher and his wife on the Cheyenne Indian Reservation SE of Eagle Butte back in the ‘80’s and he gave us permission to hunt antelope and mule deer on his ranch-res land. Made several trips over the years. He was thoughtful, intelligent, a good host, and had a pretty progressive operation.

He had the Oahe Reservoir to the East, a river to the the south, with brushed coulees leading East and south down to both. Great hunting.

We were there the last time as a blizzard descended on us and We later heard he lost most of his cattle herd as they bunched up on top of each other as they crowed the head of these draws for cover. Tragic. Felt very badly for him and his family.

Just like us, Native Americans are not a monolith of thought, opinion, or attitudes.

Things are different here, never met an Indian farmer. But then the last real Indian I saw was in front of the Sportsman's Bar before it closed. Some claim more than half but I'm not so sure. The Sissetonai (people of the fishing village) and Wahpetonai (shooters among the leaves) were a smart and well lead people and were given some dandy land for a reservation.

Don't recall the year but the tribe helped put down a band of renegades who were terrorizing Minnesota. In recognition tribal members were allowed to claim acreage in fee. After perfecting their claim they could sell it with the approval of the Dept. of Interior. You can see the attempted ripoffs in the title abstracts. I'm sitting on what was a 200 acre tree claim.

And so the res diminished But the land remained Indian Country and under jurisdiction of the tribe whether owned individually (by tribal members) or collectively. So over the generations we have a real checkerboard of jurisdiction and ownership. Some titles have a list of owners like a phone book.The only real option is to lease all those little parcels to an operator. That's where the industrious Scandinavian immigrants come in.

With a little cooperation it's worked out rather well

Yep a majority of them give a few a bad name.

They are pissed off about everything, including themselves. The way they treat each would make most cringe. Have more than a couple friends that have worked on the reservations, There is no way I could stomach it.

Not a lot of sympathy for them. Tremendous amount of respect for those who have left and are living their life.

Way back the state and tribes had a sort of wacipi to work their differences. The common joke was the tribe would open negotiations with, "OK, what are you going to give us?" Sad but no little truth in that, it's how things seemed to work out. So cut the diplomatic niceties and get to the heart of the matter. Cultural thing, the tribe isn't into butt kissing like Europeans are. So I think that's whee we are, preliminary posturing. The chairman also has a constituency to impress to keep himself and family in power.

Make sure those trade blankets are checked for Covid-19- - - -need lots of it to solve the problem!
Jerry

You would not make that joke if you lived in Indian Country. A very volatile matter and rightly so.

Other than my personal experience above, I only have other secondary experiences but in my mind, there is analogy to be made with many places in Africa; I’m thinking of Ghana, Africa where there is garbage everywhere, illiteracy, broken down buildings and equipment, roving packs of feral dogs, and seemingly little chance for the poor to escape “upward”.

A church group has been involved in the Rosebud Res in SD and while there are some people there who have embraced Christ and are making an impact to improve life, it’s a difficult road with a broken culture, alcoholism (alcohol is banned but the black market thrives) child abandonment, ubiquitous garbage, and for most, a short life..

I don't know George, it's a different scene here. More like inner city problems. Had friends like Althea who grew up in inner city DC and became a professional accountant. The biggest problem was social pressure from friends and family. When your uncles and other family are getting by selling drugs and running scams who are you to do differently. And as she rose academically the fewer friends from her social structure she had. And the more you get away from that life the more you are shunned. Went ti high school with a girl that was half Cherokee. Her father was an Air Force Lt. Co. and she told the same story. Said she hated to go to the res to visit family, broke her heart. Funny, she had white friends but no black friends. Maybe because she was taking college track courses. Blacks thinking about an academic track were shunned and physically intimidated. Here you see similar. Great little kids. Then puberty and they're looking more to adults around them and everything changes.

I have no idea what the solution is. This native pride thing the tribe has been pushing seems to help but it is, in the end, divisive.

Phil Sheridan was right.

You cant be a success on the Rez....or at least its very difficult.

Even with some exclusive advantages.

If they had a work ethic they could make a fortune selling meth on the rez...

Unless it's your family's turn to control the tribal council. It's the environment. Had a young well educated guy get elected as chairman, everybody had high hopes. Ended up convicted of embezzling funds from some government program for the tribe. It's tempting with the feds tossing money around and it's been done sine there were reservations. A big pot of money, from far away (not our money) no safeguards, helluva temptation.

My favorite story comes from the bag plant. The tribe built a plastic bag plant - think trash bags - that came with government contracting advantages. Knew a guy they hired to keep the machinery running. Why they couldn't find a tribal member with sufficient ability to keep the machinery running, or the desire to learn, I don't know. Anyway one of the employees stumbles in drunk one morning and passes out on the break room floor. Fired. His defense was, " What do you mean? I showed up for work, I was here!" An uncle I think) was on the tribal council and he got his job back. And for all it's advantages the bag plant can't make money on a competitive basis.

I believe its not even so much the corruption at the higher levels.


A lot of it is a Tall Poppy deal where the ones making it are torn down.

Accused of being sell outs....or not indian.

If you are seen to have more than your neighbors.....they take it.

Make a little money and the cousins move in and use you up.

Not always the case....but often.

Sort of a cultural problem.

Difficult and multi-faceted for sure.

Yet they suddenly become concerned about the health of their tribal community and focus on a non-existent problem in the Fauxrona Virus.
It appears, as does our governments, concern about the Fauxrona Virus is more political than medical.

It might be like the ‘Hood, where most anyone with drive and ability can succeed here in America and leave the ‘Hood and all its problems behind to raise their kids. Mostly it’s the dysfunctional that stay behind.

‘Nother burden on the Rez; raised to believe you’re a victim. We had a young couple from Cheyenne River come stay with us for a few months, fleeing an episode of violence they were subject to up there.

The guy adjusted well, found steady work with a home improvement contractor who was working on our house at the time. His girlfriend couldn’t adjust.

Now it’s gotta be understood where I live ain’t upscale ‘burbs with everyone locked away in their houses, and people here often look more Indian than a lot of Indians. But she was so used to living on a handout economy she couldn’t take it.

Her America was not the America we know, her America was a network of reservation islands surrounded by a foreign country.

Definitely a cultural problem, that is why I have so much respect for those who get out and succeed breaking the cycle..

That is why I would like to see the abolishment of the reservation system and their welfare. The culture does not allow anyone succeed.

There was a group that was trying to "bring back the bow" Spent lots of time and resources. When speaking with one of the people on how to get more involvement, his answer was simple.
$$$. Trying to bring back THEIR cultural heritage by teaching them to make self bows.and archery equipment and they wanted $$$ to learn THEIR heritage!

For as much as they talk about family, sharing,values etc. They treat each other inhumanely. Rape, beatings, incest, sexual abuse.

No one else can help them, they have to do it themselves.

If they had a work ethic they could make a fortune selling meth on the rez...
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They do make a fortune selling meth on the rez,without a work ethic and that is the biggest problem not the meth ,which is a big proble
m. BUT THE TOTAL LACK OF A CONSISTANT WORK ETHIC PASSED ON FROM ONE GENETATION TO THE NEXT. A very low percentage of lakota on the res are interested in getting up every day, pulling there pants on 1 leg at a time and go to work to earn a living. The best and brightest of them leave,do not come back, they also move far enough away so their extended family can't come and load off them. That's a cultural problem they have,if one is doing good the family shows up to live off their largess. Putting them right back to poverty level. The IHS is(Indian health service) is a division of the PHS one of the 7 uniformed services of the US. Their management is also part of the problem. They create little subdivisions out in the middle of nowhere for them to live and tax dollars fund the whole deal ,when their car breaks down their screwed.Far away from the grocery store,doctors, schools, and everything else in modern life deamed essential. White people only get to enjoy rural living if they can afford to do it and so become fairly self sufficient at it but the government with our tax dollars sticks the natives out in the sticks who can't take care of themselves or are to lazy too. Then expect the rest of us to pay for them. I have lived in SD for 60 years I know what I am talking about,for the last 35 of those years I was involved in many projects for the IHS and the SDDOT on every reservation in SD and surrounding states.. Dealing with NA 's effectively is about impossible simply because they won't be responsible for themselves. CRS IS ON THE MONEY out here in western SD and Nighthawk sure has things pinned down in east river. The Indian today that is a problem (not all are) are a problem because they are subsidized by the gov't. They have to take responsibility for themselves, it's just that simple. I retired the other day so I don't have to worry about retribution from my ex employer. MB

I've heard of some Cree bands doing the same in Alberta, specifically the Saddle Lake band.

and clocks. You know... Rez time

Well...they ARE hard workers when they work.


Its just different from us.

They work to get what they need at the moment and then slow down some.

You need day riders/cowboys?

Them rez cowboys are some of the best around.

I can add only one thing — secularists have no understanding of human nature and how we are made.

Handouts, without end, no matter how well intentioned, destroy the the dignity of a man and crush his soul, resulting in the pathetic creatures we see.

Pathetic?

I would not go so far.

We don't fully understand them because we are not indians.

I bow up a bit at the idea of them being pathetic however.

Not to pick a fight, but as long as they're taking "free money" and other advantages offered only based on ethnicity they earn every epithet tossed thataway. Same as the joggers and white trash, etc.

I got in an argument with my brother in law about the Kiwi Bird.

New Zealands national symbol.

He maintained the bird was pretty useless and pathetic.

I maintained they were happy as hell before he got there and fugged everything up.


Gosh..why dont people just stop using heroin.......its just a choice afterall.....

If I still got a pulse and mobility when I'm 70 I thought about retiring and going to teach on a Rez up there, one of the fastest ways to go down in flames I can think of

So.... Box Elder or Pattaya Beach... dunno yet.

My moms cousins grew up in the Hays-Lodgepole area.

Their parents taught school there.

When it came to be recess, the three white kids had to be the indians....the native kids got to be the cowboys.

My apologies Jim. Not intended in the way you think; I could have used different words and been clearer. I didn’t mean they were pathetic in the usual use of the word like the critical, recriminating “you are pathetic” , but rather in a state of pathos — a state of sympathy, of sorrow, as in a state of a crushing environment.

I claim no moral supremacy. I was born in a culture that buoyed me up, that didn’t enable me to “destroy” myself.

My Dad taught bio over 35 years and we lived next to the Chippewas Rez in NW Wi. He tried for over 35 years to recruit members' kids from the tribe to go to U of Mn or U of WI. He had free ride scholarships set up their kids and spoke often to tribal council and was shutdown because they didn't want the white man to brainwash their children. So they dropped out of school at 16 and became alcoholics, drug addicts and baby makers. Some were really bright but they receive ed their casino check every month so why study and work and improve your lot in life. Endless cycle of poverty.

Yep, without the parents behind the kid its an almost impossible task.

I get it.

So lets carve a bit of ground out for the "kiwis" and say no power grid, no road infrastructure, no metal, no modern medical facilities, no U.S. citizenship, and no horses. They can chase the buffalo and antelope with pointy sticks and sharp rocks.
Any access to the aforementioned and they forfeit the protected status.


Deal?

You can either tell New Zealand to go back to pre-european colonization and let kiwi birds do their thing, or you can carve out a preserve and keep them "as they were" for posterity. I don't liken people to critters. Though I know you just using an analogy. I just ran it to it's natural course.

...or we can refrain from judging until we have walked a mile in their moccasins...

I will say this tho... I know two former Rez residents who say it will never stop as long as the Government teat still flows....

..and the abuse of children oughtta be a capital crime no matter who you are

If you want to abandon all reservations....even the ones for black folk and whitey......you had better try to figure out the 100 percent employment and birth rate problems.

I don't know of any black or white reservations that disallow non-fed law enforcement on "their" land. Or any social safety nets (college funds, welfare brackets, etc.) set up for any particular set of "white folk".

I say keep it colorblind. Get rid of the reservation system altogether. You're either an American or you're not. The whole sovereign nation notion is a joke. Lotsa Native Pride bumper stickers at walmart cashing the EBT checks.

People have a right or obligation (however you see it) to keep their unique cultures and contributions to our culture as a nation alive. I don't have an obligation to subsidize it.



Or, keep the reservations and do as I posted before. Cut out everything that european settlement brought with it and let it be. No such thing as just the tip.

Good response BGG. Well said

Well that depends if they have smoke shops and casinos on the Rez and if a family member is sitting on the tribal council ( cha Ching) . I have met my share of multi millionaires with the right connections on the Rez's. Not so much on sharing the wealth on the rz. A few families control all of the cash flow on each Rez.

There’s injuns and then there’s injuns. They ain’t equal. Big pecking order, haves and have nots like everywhere else.

DF

One of the driving forces behind the reservation system was that Indians were too ignorant to look after their own affairs. This is evident through early attempts at gaining land title before the Dept. of Interior stepped in. One land speculator attempted to gain title to the land I'm sitting on by getting essentially a quitclaim deed from the wife of the guy that perfected the tree claim. In trade for something of trivial value you can bet. So actually maintaining the reservation system is a gross insult. But how do you change it with so many people, particularly the seniors and (too) young mothers dependent on the services? Makes the Gordian Knot look like child's play. Remember you would be changing an ancient culture to fit into a European model. Very different values.

And then there's the evil white man/noble savage crowd to appease.

Their ancient way of life is gone, it ain’t coming back and they don’t want it to anyway. They’ve been coddled and given special treatment so long that they have no desire to be normal functional members of American society. There are rare exceptions of course.

The odd thing around here is that the older generation, my grandparents’ age and about gone, were just normal folks. They were farmers and painters, carpenters and electricians, mechanics and plumbers, just like everyone else around here. They weren’t generally really good with money, largely due to always being willing to help someone out. But they’d keep their word and pay their bills. Many of them were good friends of my family.

Now the last two generations are about 180 out from the oldsters. They get casino checks for sitting on their asses, tribal houses so cheap they may as well be free, same for car tags. Free healthcare that they rarely take advantage of, special scholarships and school programs. And for a large percentage of them, a burning hatred of the white man. There may have been some of the old ones who were like that but I never met one, they were by and large polite and generous people even the drunks.

Probably a little different here where there’s not a designated Res. The whole state is a Res of some type or another but not in the same sense as Pine Ridge or the Rosebud.

In Canada there are provinces that require a 14 day quarantine to enter. Maybe that would work, chuckle.

If someone can figure out an answer , they deserve the Nobel Peace prize, ten years running !

Are you talking about Oklahoma?

Nearest I can tell the largest/most prosperous/most acculturated group might be the Cherokees, and their reservation was broken up and allotted a long time ago.

Yes Birdie Oklahoma is where I hail from. There are signs on the highway telling you which reservation you are entering and leaving but I really have no idea if it’s the old borders or if that’s the area a certain tribe is allowed to operate in. Casinos everywhere and Indian land sprinkled in amongst everyone else’s.

I have a deed to a place my Great Great Aunt bought from some Indian ladies in 1966. It is listed on the deed as a Kiowa Reservation land allotment.

Better run two hot wires round your garden patch....

Yup well said BGG, you know when Deflave gets done jacking his root in Florida and moves back to montana maybe you can straighten his ass out cause all that orange juice and sunshine sure as hell has him screwed up.MB

I agree, very well said BGG.

Treaties need to be dissolved.

Piss on the tribes.

For the health of the race, the reservations need to be dissolved and divided up among the tribal members. They can do with their share as they see fit.

The government checks need to be phased out slowly.

They can still honor their history and culture. Many cultures have moved here, assimilated and kept their culture alive. Japanese, and Scandinavians come to mind.

I just cant believe they wont just act like white folks........

No kidding. I mean, after they invited us here, asked us to tell them how to live, had their lawyers draw up quit claim deeds to the property they inhabited. You'd think they'd be more grateful. I mean, we sent out the same humanitarian army and generals who because of their unending desire for justice fought and some died for racial equality. Then when we show up to legally claim their land and limit their freedom this is the thanks we get. Savages.

Man it take me a month to describe the Rez life and mentality. But will add this, the Rez i grew up on. Had i high suicide rate, murder rate, alcoholics, drugs etc. One of the tribal council members was asked why they had such a high suicide rate. His reply was basically it was part of life and for every death they had, a baby would was born basically evening it per se. I remember around March/April time frame was always an uptick in funerals in the Rez. The mentality on the Rez is mind boggling. They unfortunately don’t have the ability to see both sides. The tribe does it my friends on the Rez are like hell yeah sovereign rights. If the state did that, they would be yelling white man is a racist. Far Jim Conrad someone needs to do a health and welfare check on him.

Adapt to a constantly changing world or fail. They have become a welfare society around here, and we know how well that works, no matter the race.

pretty gd simple......quit whining get on with it.....you want to be a bum..be a bum...but don't complain about it......anybody that is able to work should not get any handouts....let them starve....

now the elderly and those that are truly disabled.....help them out ..no problem...…….bob

These conversations always amaze me when folks start to talk about US or WE taking THEIR land or ways of life. Nobody here was alive at that time. Nobody around here seems to think that way when it’s the black folks wanting special rights or treatment.
I have many Indian friends, have cousins who are married to Indians. I don’t feel any remorse for something that someone in my family may have done to someone in their family 6 generations ago and the ones I’m close with don’t hold any grudge over the same things that may or may not have happened between our long dead relatives.

That taking their land thing is just BS they put out for idiot whites. When I was small Dad explained it simply. Why do the Sioux, a Canadian tribe, hate the Chippewa? We fished Enemy Swim Lake which was named after a famous Sioux - Chippewa battle. Before the Sioux were in the Dakotas there were people who built burial mounds. What happened to them? Mounds were handy. Why bother making arrow heads when you could dig up a mound and get all you want.

"I just cant believe they wont just act like white folks........"

Flip it around. Going hunting and fishing whenever you want while the women took care of the work around camp doesn't sound so bad to me. Kind of a nice arrangement if you can get away with it.

Well, I learned the history of the name Enemy Swim. I can envision some warriors looking at the short stick deciding the long pull across the lake was the best option for today.

Its a schitting complicated problem.


Its not about the nail.........

But I never did hear the story of Weasel's Tomb.

I suspect Weasel’s inclinations (he wasn’t Nic-named that for no good reason) got himself ushered into eternity in some fairly unique way. Perhaps he was even aided. 😳 🤔

Divert any/all roads AROUND the their reservation and see how they like that new level of "protection"......

What is complicated? The current system doesn't benefit anyone.

Either they are sovereign nations, or they are not. Like many things, it's only complicated if you make it so.

You've a different perspective and I'm honestly interested in what you have to say on it.

I thought that closing the beer stores in White Clay, NE, was supposed to save the Native Americans from the curse of alcohol addiction.

Ha ha that's funny. Prohibition does not work no matter the race.

[quote=Nebraska]Divert any/all roads AROUND the their reservation and see how they like that new level of "protection"......[/quote)

That's the heart of the problem right there. It might be their res but the roads belong to the US gov't or the state of SD. NOT THE Tribe, tribal roads are marked BIA OR other but when that road sign says US 18 or US 212 it belongs to all of us. Or when marked SD 63 it's SD's the state's ownership put there for all of us and the SD highway patrol has legal jurisdiction on those roads not the tribe. Just like most of the res's have white deaded land that is privately owned..MB

The Yakama tribe kicked off the State patrol and county sheriffs off their sovereign land a few years ago. Of course the DWI/vehicular deaths increased tenfold as well as violent crime, homicides, rapes, infant death rates, assaults and the Mexican cartels increased their presence and began operating freely on the Rez. The tribal cops are a complete schitshow.

They're not cross-deputized but the tribal cops seem to do pretty good here. FBI too but rarely anything happens beyond tribal jurisdiction. Drugs are still a problem but they are so damn prevalent there's not a lot the cops can do. the chairman , a young guy, about a year ago decided there would be trug testing for all tribal employees starting tomorrow. Man, was he a nervous guy until he dropped the policy and things cooled down. Gave the guy credit for truing but a law is good only so far as the people sanction it.

Good on the guy for trying. Too bad shot down by the Rez mentality. One Yaka Rez cop was posting on facebook that any white man was fair game if found on the Rez. He was let go but his auntie was on the tribal council and he got his job back. I have a friend who is white ( non tribal) and a tribal detective on the Rez -he sure knows how to play the politics to survive lol

Hes retiring soon so comfortable posting

I think the size of the drop vs the size of the bucket does not warrant much change.

It is a bit reminiscent of our operations in the gulf.

I wondered if you had some sort of NZ connection. I've only heard of the "tall poppy syndrome" spoken by some kiwis I worked with a couple decades ago.

My in-laws owned a small ranch on the NE/SD border north of Chadron, NE, that they leased to a local rancher. He said that he factored in the loss of four or five head of cattle to rustlers each year. Although he never came out and actually said that the rustlers were coming out of the Pine Ridge, he made it clear that was what he thought.

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Gov Noem

Farm raised too. That's a heck of a woman.

Always finish what you start.

When one deviates from principle, they are doomed for failure.

It aint much of a perspective!


I have been around enough Indians and lived between two not very prosperous reservations long enough to realize that Indians just dont think the same way we do.


Maybe their development was stunted once the Reservation system was initiated?


For better or worse.....mostly worse I guess.....we are stuck with the system we have. No one is going to schit can the Welfare state. Cut these people loose.




So, in the mean time.......I really dont get two bowed up when they wanna play Sovereign Nation.


We give zillions of dollars to foreign countries..........those pricks dont turn around and spend the money in our Casinos and WalMarts!



We get it all back......in the name of a booming economy. Thats one thing about Injuns.....they dont save for a rainy day.



Why would ya? Uncle Sam gonna wipe his ass with the last treaty you signed......or the neighboring tribe gonna steal all you got and take your food and women.


As far as things go.....the Rez system and welfare is probably the most cost effective way of dealing with them.

Yes. That is absolutely what happened.



You dont, under any circumstances, take your fat dry cows or yearlings to the Rez in the fall.



They give the worthless freezer burnt buffalo to the dogs and eat your steers!