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I don't know of any black or white reservations that disallow non-fed law enforcement on "their" land. Or any social safety nets (college funds, welfare brackets, etc.) set up for any particular set of "white folk".

I say keep it colorblind. Get rid of the reservation system altogether. You're either an American or you're not. The whole sovereign nation notion is a joke. Lotsa Native Pride bumper stickers at walmart cashing the EBT checks.

People have a right or obligation (however you see it) to keep their unique cultures and contributions to our culture as a nation alive. I don't have an obligation to subsidize it.



Or, keep the reservations and do as I posted before. Cut out everything that european settlement brought with it and let it be. No such thing as just the tip.

Good response BGG. Well said

Well that depends if they have smoke shops and casinos on the Rez and if a family member is sitting on the tribal council ( cha Ching) . I have met my share of multi millionaires with the right connections on the Rez's. Not so much on sharing the wealth on the rz. A few families control all of the cash flow on each Rez.

There’s injuns and then there’s injuns. They ain’t equal. Big pecking order, haves and have nots like everywhere else.

DF

One of the driving forces behind the reservation system was that Indians were too ignorant to look after their own affairs. This is evident through early attempts at gaining land title before the Dept. of Interior stepped in. One land speculator attempted to gain title to the land I'm sitting on by getting essentially a quitclaim deed from the wife of the guy that perfected the tree claim. In trade for something of trivial value you can bet. So actually maintaining the reservation system is a gross insult. But how do you change it with so many people, particularly the seniors and (too) young mothers dependent on the services? Makes the Gordian Knot look like child's play. Remember you would be changing an ancient culture to fit into a European model. Very different values.

And then there's the evil white man/noble savage crowd to appease.

Their ancient way of life is gone, it ain’t coming back and they don’t want it to anyway. They’ve been coddled and given special treatment so long that they have no desire to be normal functional members of American society. There are rare exceptions of course.

The odd thing around here is that the older generation, my grandparents’ age and about gone, were just normal folks. They were farmers and painters, carpenters and electricians, mechanics and plumbers, just like everyone else around here. They weren’t generally really good with money, largely due to always being willing to help someone out. But they’d keep their word and pay their bills. Many of them were good friends of my family.

Now the last two generations are about 180 out from the oldsters. They get casino checks for sitting on their asses, tribal houses so cheap they may as well be free, same for car tags. Free healthcare that they rarely take advantage of, special scholarships and school programs. And for a large percentage of them, a burning hatred of the white man. There may have been some of the old ones who were like that but I never met one, they were by and large polite and generous people even the drunks.

Probably a little different here where there’s not a designated Res. The whole state is a Res of some type or another but not in the same sense as Pine Ridge or the Rosebud.

In Canada there are provinces that require a 14 day quarantine to enter. Maybe that would work, chuckle.

If someone can figure out an answer , they deserve the Nobel Peace prize, ten years running !

Are you talking about Oklahoma?

Nearest I can tell the largest/most prosperous/most acculturated group might be the Cherokees, and their reservation was broken up and allotted a long time ago.

Yes Birdie Oklahoma is where I hail from. There are signs on the highway telling you which reservation you are entering and leaving but I really have no idea if it’s the old borders or if that’s the area a certain tribe is allowed to operate in. Casinos everywhere and Indian land sprinkled in amongst everyone else’s.

I have a deed to a place my Great Great Aunt bought from some Indian ladies in 1966. It is listed on the deed as a Kiowa Reservation land allotment.

Better run two hot wires round your garden patch....

Yup well said BGG, you know when Deflave gets done jacking his root in Florida and moves back to montana maybe you can straighten his ass out cause all that orange juice and sunshine sure as hell has him screwed up.MB

I agree, very well said BGG.

Treaties need to be dissolved.

Piss on the tribes.

For the health of the race, the reservations need to be dissolved and divided up among the tribal members. They can do with their share as they see fit.

The government checks need to be phased out slowly.

They can still honor their history and culture. Many cultures have moved here, assimilated and kept their culture alive. Japanese, and Scandinavians come to mind.

I just cant believe they wont just act like white folks........

No kidding. I mean, after they invited us here, asked us to tell them how to live, had their lawyers draw up quit claim deeds to the property they inhabited. You'd think they'd be more grateful. I mean, we sent out the same humanitarian army and generals who because of their unending desire for justice fought and some died for racial equality. Then when we show up to legally claim their land and limit their freedom this is the thanks we get. Savages.

Man it take me a month to describe the Rez life and mentality. But will add this, the Rez i grew up on. Had i high suicide rate, murder rate, alcoholics, drugs etc. One of the tribal council members was asked why they had such a high suicide rate. His reply was basically it was part of life and for every death they had, a baby would was born basically evening it per se. I remember around March/April time frame was always an uptick in funerals in the Rez. The mentality on the Rez is mind boggling. They unfortunately don’t have the ability to see both sides. The tribe does it my friends on the Rez are like hell yeah sovereign rights. If the state did that, they would be yelling white man is a racist. Far Jim Conrad someone needs to do a health and welfare check on him.

Adapt to a constantly changing world or fail. They have become a welfare society around here, and we know how well that works, no matter the race.

pretty gd simple......quit whining get on with it.....you want to be a bum..be a bum...but don't complain about it......anybody that is able to work should not get any handouts....let them starve....

now the elderly and those that are truly disabled.....help them out ..no problem...…….bob