I’m gonna unintentionally jack this post up due to my lack of geographical knowledge and accurate timelines of the revolutionary changes that took place in South Africa....Still hope the content isn’t drowned out by my inaccuracies.

South Africa under British control was prosperous. Rubber plantations, oil, diamonds, and other natural resources were abundant.

Brits were rulers and acted accordingly towards the blacks. Not my point.

My point....After Apartheid, the blacks couldn’t figure out how to govern themselves, live harmoniously together, or foster a work force that allowed the rich resources to continue to reach the global market.

In essence, they fûcked themselves by reverting to tribal street gangs who slaughtered for revenge, UN food supplies, territory and power.

Some of the warlords were college educated men from the US and Great Britain, but they still had no idea how to harness the manpower of the South Africans to keep the economic growth, growing.

What makes the black communities think they would do any better running the show than the South Africans?

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Only in Afreaka

I think rolling blackouts and a mostly grounded air force speak for themselves.

Beaver, are you chitting me?

Ever heard the saying, better to rule in hell then serve in heaven?

No.

This is a documentary that shows the situation very well. Bookmark it and watch it when you have an hour to spend.

Look to Haiti for your answer, grasshoppa.

I enjoyed serving my fellow man (Christians). The heathens, not so much. With the latter, telling the truth seemed to elicit hard feelings.

Haiti? Look to Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit,,,,,

Haiti is half of the island of Santo Domingo. The Dominican Republic is the other half. The GDP per capita in the Dominican Republic is nine times as high as in Haiti. Guess which one is black and ruled by blacks.

I’d haste a guess that if black communities ruled themselves exclusively, they’d be saying the same things to their people they say now. Stop killing each other. Stop stealing from your neighbors. Go to school and get an education. Don’t do meth.

The only difference is the color of the man or woman calling the shots. A large portion of the out of control population we see looting and burning would continue, but with an * asterisk “I’m black, you expected something else from me”?

Black leaders would be as frustrated as any white leader.

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Fuqk No . . . . . . .history has proven it.

Bris,

You watching so much of this stuff, is driving you mad.

Chill big fella...😎

Malcom X said all of that. The 'boo's killed him deader than Bar-B-Q.

Certainly they can. You just can’t expect the same values and outcome as if they were ruled by whites.

seriously? after 8 long long years of a "black" in the white house, we even have to think about this question?

I'm not mad at all. I just feel the need to be informed.

Who said this?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

It's preferable to know.

Look to Haiti. It's your future if we don't change direction real quick.

I hear you...It’s a difficult line to walk with any large black community.

Always need based requests, additional resources, better employment opportunities, less exposure to empirical abuse by the police, respect as a human.

Some blacks absolutely get it, but those are the same ones who would get rolled up by the mob who is chanting “I want mine, I want yours”.

Not a history buff, but they have no idea what shît they would find themselves in, if they had full control. Some however do know and try to find a way to work it out....Futile?

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Back up a little over a century and look at the experiment that was tried at returning slaves to Africa to govern themselves- - - - -Liberia. Sounds a lot like "Liberty", doesn't it? None other than the "Great Emancipator" Abraham Lincoln floated that idea, and even if he had lived to manage the effort, it would have probably been just as spectacular of a failure. The former slaves who returned to Africa simply became the slave-masters over the indigenous tribes they found there, and they imposed a rigid caste system that was much more oppressive than the one they had left in America. One of Libya's abundant natural resources was, and still is, DIAMONDS! Even while sitting on huge deposits of some of the most valuable gemstones in the world, those clowns couldn't make a go of their economy. 150 years later, Liberia is still one of the poorest, worst-governed nations in the world! Isn't South Africa one of the world's major producers of diamonds, also?
Jerry

Totally incapable! Proven for thousands of years! And can take a successful, thriving society and destroy it! Cape Town South Africa, Detroit, Cleveland, Memphis, Philadelphia, Chicago immediately come to mind! memtb

Rhodesia was prosperous, Zimbabwe has devolved into it's natural state. The same fate awaits South Africa, a country that once built nuclear weapons now can't run a power grid.

Yeah, it pisses me off too, Beav.

I can't think of a single successful black run area, let alone country. They take over good places, and turn them into bad places.

The average IQ in Liberia is 67. That's just about ch imp level.

https://new-iq-test.com/liberia-average-iq.html

Nobody will rule in hell, not even Satan. Hell was created for his punishment, not to be his kingdom. Those who joke about going to hell have no idea what they're saying. It's someplace where you do NOT want to go but the majority have elected to go anyway.

Zimbabwe. In just a few years it went from a prosperous nation to extreme inflation and poverty when it was taken over by a black ruler, Mugabe. He destroyed their national sources of income quickly and thoroughly.

You, obviously, are not much a student of history or you wouldn't ask that question.

MM

Missed your sarcasm icon you would have left, if you read all posts prior to yours.

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There's a better chance of hell freezing over

For MM

That is the perfect example...

Well, yes and no....I believe this is a problem that is generational, and won’t be solved for another 60-70 years, if ever.

A good beginning would be to get rid of every liberal politician. I would call that alone a win.

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Why would blacks when white LE can't?

It's going to take more than 60-70 years. Evolution doesn't move that fast.

I literally laughed out loud when I saw this thread title..

Wait, there are dozens of examples where they have built a prospersous advanced civilization. Take for example......uhhh, well there there was........umm,, Hang on, I'll think of one here in a minute.......

Come on! Someone find an example of a well run government where black people are running the show.

Que Jeopardy theme song.

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That’s the funniest damn thing I’ve ever heard

Not true...Leupold is a great scope. Now, that’s funny as hell.

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Pastor Manning doesn’t think so.

Don't forget about......no, that didn't work out either. Maybe if we change the definition of "advanced". You know, Shaka had the Zulus rocking there for a while. Oh wait, I forgot about the brutal violence. ok, let me start over.......

I had no idea it was that low!!!

I had no idea it was that high.

i had no idea it was even high enough to measure! and i have been there!

Oh come on guys! there are plenty! like Baltimore, Chicago,San Francisco,Framingham, Massachusetts, Washington DC, Charlotte, North Carolina, Atlanta, New Haven, all thriving garden spots of contentment and prosperity!

They are broke! Where did the money go?

If you're saying blacks are not like us, wow, you're a little late to the game...

#California

Amen, brother !!!!!!

But the country doesn't want to hear that truth.

50+ years of the Great Society & things are worse now than when LBJ kicked it off.

MM

History says hell no.

Name me one prosperous country that isn't White or Asian.
You can even watch color and prosperity interact.
As a countries skin color darkens, their overall wealth declines.

Sounds racist as hell, I know. But our melting pot excluded, and
Asians.

Look at Northern Europe, Scandinavia/Germany/Upper E. Europe
compared to Spain/Italy/Portugal.

But, it could be a latitude thing too.


I always thought it was survival.
If you lived in Sweden, you busted it when you could, and made
smart decisions, or died.

In the moderate climates, you didn't need a good home, heat supply,
Or winter food supply. You can get by on what you pick up daily.

Civilization has eliminated natural selection.
That's not a good thing.

Where’s the meme that showed Rome 2,000 years ago and Africa now?

Chilling.





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It' a [bleep] world..

There's the prosperous thriving african
nation of Wakanda . . . . .

This thread was a joke???
Right????


George Washington Carver invented peanut butter.

Thanks dude...


Yep thats about it I think....

Most things that are N double O seem to be flops....
Jmo

Rap music they excell at and sports.
So add those to the peanut butter thing too.

Well, first one has to want to change.

You used the correct term. Can we again say TRIBAL??? Worked around them for way too many years. Be Well, Rustyzipper.

beaver, stop asking these questions, the answers to which no one will understand or believe. you forgot Rhodesia aka zimbabwe

no

Carver didn't invent peanut butter, some Canadian named Marcellus Gilmore Edson did.

Nuh uh.
The history book said it was george.


If a candian invented it .
They stole the claim from george.
Just like the russians did with the plane to wilbur and orville.


Lol!!!

Sure they can!

Here's a pic of the King of Ghana,...probably taking a break from supervising the country's space program to present a meritorious service medal to Birdwatcher.

Man......
Im gonna roll up to maine and Pizz on mrs leavitts grave.
Bitch be putting out some bogus schitt back in the day.

LOL!!!


It’s one of the country’s favorite things to spread over bread. We dip celery sticks in it. It’s often baked into cookies and countless deserts. I’m talking about peanut butter and as a whole Americans consume tons of the pulverized pea -- about a billion pounds worth each year. That’s roughly $800 spent annually and a booming increase from the roughly two million pounds produced at the turn of the 20th century. Peanut butter was not invented by George Washington Carver, as many believe.

Peanuts were first cultivated as food in South America and natives in the region began turning them into grounded up paste roughly 3,000 years ago. The kind of peanut butter that the Incas and Aztecs made was of course much different from the manufactured stuff sold in grocery stores today. The more modern story of peanut butter actually began towards the end of the 19th century, not too long after farmers began mass commercializing the crop that was suddenly in demand after the civil war.

A Nutty Controversy

So who invented peanut butter? It's hard to say. In fact, there appears to be some disagreement among food historians over who deserves the honor. One historian, Eleanor Rosakranse, says a woman from New York named Rose Davis started making peanut butter as early as the 1840’s after her son reported seeing women in Cuba grinding peanuts into a pulp and smearing it onto bread.   

Then there are some who think the credit should go to Marcellus Gilmore Edson, a Canadian chemist who in 1884 filed and was granted the first patent in the United States for what he called “peanut-candy.” Conceived as a kind of flavoring paste, the process described running roasted peanuts through a heated mill to produce a fluid or semi-fluid byproduct that cools into "a consistency like that of butter, lard, or ointment." However, there wasn’t any indication that Edson made or sold peanut butter as a commercial product.

A case can also be made for a St. Louis businessman named George A. Bayle, who began packaging and selling peanut butter through his food manufacturing company. It’s believed that the idea was born out of a collaboration with a doctor who had been seeking a way for his patients who were unable to chew meat to ingest protein. Bayle also ran advertisements in the early 1920’s proclaiming his company to be the “Original Manufacturers of Peanut Butter.” Cans of Bayle’s Peanut Butter came with labels touting this claim as well.

Dr. John Harvey Kellogg

It isn’t difficult to find those who dispute this claim as many have argued that the honor should go to none other than the influential Seventh-day Adventist Dr. John Harvey Kellogg. Indeed, the National Peanut Board states that Kellogg received a patent in 1896 for a technique he developed for making peanut butter. There’s also an 1897 advertisement for Kellogg’s Sanitas company Nut Butters that pre-dates all other competitors.

More importantly, though, Kellogg was a tireless promoter of peanut butter. He travelled extensively throughout the country giving lectures on its benefits of to health. Kellogg even served peanut butter to his patients at the Battle Creek Sanitarium, a health resort with treatment programs supported by the Seventh-day Adventist church. The one big knock on Kellogg’s claim as the father of modern day peanut butter is that his disastrous decision to switch from roasted nuts to steamed nuts resulted in a product that barely resembled the ubiquitous jarred goodness found on store shelves today.

Kellogg also in an indirect way played a part in the production of peanut butter reaching a mass scale. John Lambert, an employee of Kellogg’s who was involved in the nut butter business, eventually left in 1896 and founded a company to develop and manufacture industrial strength peanut-grinding machines. He would soon have competition as another machine manufacturer, Ambrose Straub, was granted a patent for one of the earliest peanut butter machines in 1903. The machines made the process easier as making peanut butter had been quite tedious. Peanuts were first grounded using a mortar and pestle before being put through a meat grinder. Even then, it was hard to achieve the desired consistency. 

Peanut Butter Goes Global

In 1904, peanut butter was introduced to the wider public at the World’s Fair in St. Louis. According to the book “Creamy and Crunchy: An Informal History of Peanut Butter, the All-American Food,” a concessionaire named C.H. Sumner was the only vendor to sell peanut butter. Using one of Ambrose Straub’s peanut butter machines, Sumner sold $705.11 worth of peanut butter. That same year, the Beech-Nut Packing Company became the first nationwide brand to market peanut butter and continued to distribute the product until 1956.

Other notable early brands to follow suit were the Heinz company, which entered the market in 1909 and the Krema Nut Company, an Ohio-based operation that survives to this day as the world’s oldest peanut butter company. Soon more and more companies would start selling peanut butter as a disastrous mass invasion of boll weevils ravaged the south, destroying much of cotton crop yields that had long been a staple of the region’s farmers. Thus the food industry’s growing interest in peanut was fueled in part by many farmers turning to peanuts as a replacement.

Even as demand for peanut butter grew, it was primarily being sold as a regional product. In fact, Krema founder Benton Black once proudly boasted “I refuse to sell outside Ohio.” While it may sound today like a bad way of doing business, it made sense at the time as grounded peanut butter was unstable and best distributed locally. The problem was that, as the oil separated from the peanut butter solids, it would rise to the top and quickly spoil with exposure to light and oxygen.     

All that changed in the 1920’s when a businessman named Joseph Rosefield patented a process called “Peanut butter and process of manufacturing the same,” which describes how hydrogenation of peanut oil can be used to keep the peanut butter from coming apart. Rosefield began licensing the patent to food companies before he decided to go off on his own and launch his own brand. Rosefield's Skippy peanut butter, along with Peter Pan and Jif, would go on to become the most successful and recognizable names in the business. 

The Kingdom of Gold That's prob'ly One of the Prempeh clan, the Ashanteheni, King of the Ashantis. At times I would claim in their language to be of thhe Prempeh clan for comic effect.

Sorta analogous to British Royalty, still a wealthy family but they don't formally rule anything anymore. Neither are they even titular Head of any State.

Only about a third of Ghana is Ashanti, the traditional chiefs of towns and villages are still in place, more akin to mayors.

Some academics on both sides of the color wheel continue to say we need to start a conversation about equality, defining the best ways and practices forward to accomplish human fairness.

It seems that these conversations always hover around what additional programs and services should be developed to help the black communities catch up to the white peoples achievements. Remember, we have a 100 year head start on them.

Owning a home.
Access to good health care.
Quality education k-12 and higher Ed.
Good jobs with benefits.
Loan availability for home and business.
Revitalization of low income neighborhoods.
Ability to live without fear of the police.

I’m surely missing several other important mentionables for the list.

But, as a white male, who found fortune through hard work, good decision making at the right time, and an upbringing that expected and encouraged me to exceed the financial abilities of my parents...

Was I destined for success because I was born wearing the golden ticket of being white in America? Or....

Was I automatically supposed to find life easier?

Were all the schools class room doors automatically opening for me?

Did I receive notification in the mail that good paying jobs all wanted to hire me? Or, banks wanted to loan me money?

Was health care awarded to me because my hair was straight?

I don’t believe myself to be a racist, at least not one against black people. But, I’m also not an apologist for being white, or for succeeding in life...

I was poor white - not white trash, but not well off enough to know what premium labeled food tasted like or what it’s like to have a lot of extra things lying around the house.

Jobs weren’t given to me, they were earned by being prepared and taking risks that I could do the work better than someone else who wanted the same job.

Loans were acquired after income was sufficient to repay them. Healthcare came at a price - it was never free.

I am not a racist. When I tried to be one at age 14 tossing around the word N-i-gg-er with friends in my parents home. My dad slapped the living shît out of me before my friends eyes...Yelling in my face “You think you’re better than a black man”? “Your mom and me came from dirt floors”. That was memorable!

People are just fûcked up...Being black might suck - I will never know. But, I do know my life wasn’t awesome everyday and it sure didn’t rain money where I lived.

If black people want to improve the quality and equality of their lives, then start by taking advantage of the opportunities created for them. Then learn to govern their lives individually and create a new generation of successful black families that can carrying over to the next generation.

All the black people I know, hate loser blacks. HATE THEM! Hard getting ahead in the world for most of us. Being black and making it to 6 and 7 figure income level through legal business means, not athletics or music, was hard.

Nobody in their right mind wants to oppress a person because of skin color...Most will learn there’s cultural differences between us and not be scared of it...I don’t like pants that sag, huge bling necklaces or Tyler Perry Medea movies.

Blacks don’t have to eat pussy...But, as a black community, they need to step up, own their issues, minimize their exposure to damage from cops by not flunking every attitude test when stopped.

And, stop making excuses or blaming others for their shîtty, street rat kids, who get into trouble, or end up dead by doing things that would get anyone shot by the police...They were your kid. Raise them better, expect, and demand more from them. That’s part of your job as a parent.

Police departments need to stop hiring fûck’n pussy cops who can’t handle themselves on the street. Pussy cops kill people, where a stud cop might be able to hang until cover arrives. [generalization statement]

If you’re gonna be a racist, then at the very least target the right ass-holes to race rage about, and include your own skin color who behave no better...It will at least, make you seem better educated and socially adjusted...Added bonus points if you can throw a nod of appreciation to the black people who didn’t suck Uncle Sam dry, but went to work, or school, and earned their way into financial equality.


Last thing, if we could grab every single liberal city and state politician by the throat and put them on the curb next to the trash can...Everyone would be doing better in this country.

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Well there is overwhelming evidence based on cultures where the ancestors of a majority of the “African” Americans in this country came from, and the status they hold today, if they were left to rule themselves they’d likely still be doing rain dances around a fire with banana leaves wrapped around their cock. Couldn’t grow a crop, nor drill a well. Yet we somehow oppressed them.

+1 million

I just wish blacks would stop killing white people and looting/burning all the stores.

Hate really doesn't figure into it. It's just a rational response to an evident situation.

My kid had some [bleep] on FB call her white privileged.

I told her she had white privilege.....a mom and a dad that both raised her and demanded that she get an education and work for stuff.

It is a white thing, since blacks refuse to subscribe to it.

And thats their fault.

Gimmeeee gmmmeeeeee gimmmeeee

Who knows....but it's damn clear that whites can't do it either.....just look to Washington DC

I am an equal opportunity hater, so hate works for me in those situations of killing, looting, and burning.

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I am an equal opportunity hater, so hate works for me in those situations of killing, looting, and burning.

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It seems to me that your mind is trying to talk your eyes out of what they see.

Liberal raised white kids, young, with no life experience, calling other white kids privileged.

Scary version...Some will be the future leaders.

Hope I’m dead before they take control of the country, or we get it stopped.

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Italy

It seems to me that your mind is trying to talk your eyes out of what they see.
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Feel free to expand on your theory Doctor Freud.

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It probably that brain eating disease that's going around in Oregon, best I can figure.

The CIA is using facial recognition technology to catalog all the looters, rioters, and protestors. A list is being compiled as we speak just in case they ever run for political office.

#whiteclaw

Group picture time- - - - - -say "cheese"!



Dammit, stop getting in line!
Jerry

Blacks (by majority percentages) have been voting for people promising them [bleep] for longer than Ive been alive and still bitching about the same for as long.

There are many who have found their way and prospered and I admire them.

In totality,

No.

They need to raid the schidtholes they live in and arrest them, while the rest of us are at work.

Drugs and illegal weapons "might" also be found....

For Bristoe: My favorite is Black Cherry.

Raspberry, Grapefruit are tasty...Lime is ok.

#Whiteclawandvodka mucho good!

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I’m not paying you for this session...Quack!

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Truth or BS?

Cool, if it’s the real!

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Beav drinks grapefruit white claw while he wipes down his 270 Winchester.

Truth of course

Absolutely...Admire those that work and take the hits of life like the rest of us...Hate those who consider social payments as their earned currency for voting democratic.

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Fûck’n A....😎

Pfft...I sold my 270 WSM to some old dude Bristoe’s age last year....There was plenty of gay still on it.

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Come on now....That would piss Mr and Mrs de Blasio off if NYPD kicked in their front door.

Bill already said publicly, he’s proud of his daughter getting arrested for protesting.

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You two need to leave some words for Geno.

Id be proud of him if he suck started a Glock....

ever hear of John Kerry? John Mclame?

You cant make a silk purse....

Name all the rich and successful countries in sub-Saharan Africa. Next, name all the successful and rich cities run by blacks in the USA. Add those two numbers together. What do you have?

Chinks do it every day...😂😎

Looting must be hard-wired into the negroid DNA, in my decidedly biased opinion. While spending 30+ years in the public education system, I had the misfortune to work under the supervision of numerous black school administrators. Virtually every one considered his/her position of authority to be a license to steal. While I was running the auto mechanics department at a state trade school, the director used the construction trades class as his own personal crew- - - -building three rental houses with student labor and charging most of the materials to the school. He also accepted the donation of a 15-passenger Ford van with a bad engine from the local senior citizens center, and used my class to rebuild it. When it arrived, it had Tennessee state government license plates on it. I arrived at school one Monday morning to find that the plates had been swapped for private ones, and the registration paperwork in the glove box had the director's name on it.

At a big high school in Nashville where I spent 15 years running the auto shop, the principal would keep the Friday night football and basketball game concession stand cash box at his home over the weekend before turning it over to the bookkeeper on Monday to be deposited in the bank. A long undercover investigation by the school system auditors turned up suspicious deposits into his personal bank accounts and shortages to the school finances that neither he nor the bookkeeper could explain. She "retired" abruptly, and he lost his job as principal of a school with over 3000 students enrolled.

One of the "counselors" at that school spent most of her time running a Mom and Pop grocery store from her school office, managing employees and ordering merchandise by phone, instead of meeting with students. She absolutely refused to assist my students with applications to trade and industrial post high school programs- - - -"I'm too busy to do that!" (Trade education placement didn't get the same credit to her office as college enrollment did!)

Most of the black administrators I worked for were so crooked that their graves had to be dug with a corkscrew!
Jerry

Rhodesia?

All of the former colonies are useful examples. Is it better to let indigenous Africans have the “liberty” to rule themselves, even if it means mass starvation and endless civil war and disease?

Or let Whites govern, build infrastructure, and plan a society that minimizes misery and death for the majority of inhabitants at the “cost” of requiring, at least temporarily, a caste system?

Someone posted the movie Empire of Dust here a few days ago. Watch that, and Africa Addio and if you still believe it is better for blacks to rule themselves, I feel bad for both them and you.

I would guess that some of the now older blacks that are missing a limb, or body part, wouldn’t mind having the white man back in power.

This time with an understood working relationship of whitey is boss - employee is native born.

Now let’s work together to make money.

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Feeling the old "white man's burden" are ya? Of course it would be better for them. What's in it for the whites though? Didn't work out so well last time.

" The Impossible Dream."

We have a couple of cities in this state that were once thriving, Selma and Prichard. The black community wanted to govern, so they elected their leaders, took control and white flight ensued. Business and industry moved or closed as these communities became unprofitable and dangerous. Now these cities have no tax base. No economic opportunity is present, since the majority of the citizens don't / won't work. All we hear from the "leaders" now is they need more money to fix the problems they created. When they do get the gravy, it disappears in a myriad of corruption almost immediately. These once fine cities have crumbled and it's NOT whitey's fault.