I have no idea what that remark is supposed to mean, but I will post some more and better photos of some other guns of Clyde Barrow and Pretty Boy Floyd. When I get time, I will pull them from the case and take better photos.

I wasn't taking offense.
I figured it was intended as a joke of some sort, probably referring to some of the nut jobs who have claimed other photographs were faked, if said photos were evidence of their ignorance.

These guns above belong to a friend of mine. He and I used know the Purvis family. He knew Melvin, and I knew one of the sons. That book in the background, "Vendetta", is by another son, Alston Purvis. It is about how J. Edgar Hoover was eaten up with jealousy of Purvis, Elliot Ness and some Texas Rangers who were wiping out the gangsters.

I first learned to shoot a revolver from one of these fellows, a Pinkerton detective who killed several bank robbers. My next lessons came from Jeff Cooper, on the 1911A1, who introduced me to Bill Jordan and a few other old-time lawmen.

Right before you wrote the book "Hell I Was There ..."

*grin*

GE

Yeah, I used to shoot with Jeff, Bill and Skeeter, too....back when I was married to my first wife, uh...Morgan Fairchild.

If she was naked, and all you did was SEE her, I wouldn't be bragging.

Okay, that's more like it. Was this before or after she was married to Steve and/or Tom?

Who's Morgan Fairchild?

BAN HIM!!!!!

BAN HIM!!!!!

The display is in the S.C. Military Museum.

Video:

http://www.scguard.com/museum/slideshows/movies/purvis.html

I first learned to shoot a revolver from one of these fellows, a Pinkerton detective who killed several bank robbers. My next lessons came from Jeff Cooper, on the 1911A1, who introduced me to Bill Jordan and a few other old-time lawmen.

I was acquainted with Morgan Fairchild BEFORE she bought those $50,000.00 Beverly Hills plastic boobies. Before, she was built like a 14 year old schoolboy. Pretty, but... uhhh, flat. Also have a friend, a well known character actor, who was in a movie with her and he said she was so dumb she didn't know the difference between germ and German Shepherd.

That's not unusual for a tremendous amount of the Hollywood "swells."

L.W.

Want to bet some money, and have me embarass you here?
What say I go pick up one of those guns in the photos above, and take of photo of it in my hand? Would that make you start acting like a adult? Because I can do it any time I want to.

[OK, do it. End this, prove to us you are who you say you are. I have my doubts and if you do I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

I am beginning to believe this is John Davis AKA Hardin AKA gunkid ET AL.

Why don't you wait until I take some more photos and post them, so you won't look so foolish?

And if you think I found them on the Internet, why can't you find them? Duh.

You might find these photos that I took and POSTED for you.

I guess you are trying to change the subject to the chemical vapor deposition process I helped develop, which Remington uses for the XCR coating. Or is this something else? Is my detailed knowledge of the process and machinery not enough, or did you not understand my explanation?

Well, then I don't know what you are talking about at Remington, but that is probably because I don't know what I am talking about.

Looks like I have to deliver you another butt whipping, Nimrod, the same as in 20 other threads where the facts were delivered up to prove your ignorance.

Well, then I don't know what you are talking about at Remington, but that is probably because you don't know what you are talking about.

Take it from a mechanical engineer who has consulted on improving firearms for Remington, S&W, FN, HK and others.

That's right. I have consulted for VW, Porsche, Ferrari, GM, Ford, Northrup, Lockheed, Boeing and other companies on their products, too, but I doubt many of the customers know my name, or the name of any other engineers or designers.

How many passengers in an ambulance know the names of the EMT and ambulance driver?

That's right. I have consulted for VW, Porsche, Ferrari, GM, Ford, Northrup, Lockheed, Boeing and other companies on their products, too, but I doubt many of the customers know my name, or the name of any other engineers or designers.

How many passengers in an ambulance know the names of the EMT and ambulance driver?

I first learned to shoot a revolver from one of these fellows, a Pinkerton detective who killed several bank robbers. My next lessons came from Jeff Cooper, on the 1911A1, who introduced me to Bill Jordan and a few other old-time lawmen.

Umm, it's Northrop not Northrup.

You can't make me believe you actually believed lee24 or a "friend" of his had possession of them!

I can�t believe that you can�t be made to believe that visitors are allowed access to the exhibits by Military Museum staff for personal pictures of the items out of their cases! . . . Since at the Parris Island Museum, you�ll be reprimanded by a Marine for simply chewing gum in �his� museum. . . .

Article about the S.C. Military Museum from the Camden Chronicle Independent:

http://www.chronicle-independent.co...amp;PAG=461&dept_id=161822&rfi=8

Q:
How can you tell if someone is a pathological liar?

A: Identifying a Pathological Liar

Pathological liars, or "mythomaniacs," may be suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder.

Some characteristics:

1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.

2. One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them.

3. They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs).

4. Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment.

5. They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior.

6. Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?).

Here are some ways to tell someone is a pathological liar contributed by another WikiAnswers Contributor:

* They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't.

* They add exaggerations to every sentence.

* They change their story all the time.

* They act very defensively when you question their statements.

* They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't.

Here's an alternate "checklist":

* Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth.

* Lies to get sympathy, to look beter, to save their butt, etc.

* Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say.

* May have a personality disorder.

* Extremely manipulative.

* Has been caught in lies repeatedly.

* Never fesses up to the lies.

* Is a legend in their own mind.

Here are more opinions and other input from WikiAnswers Contributors:

* I have found a few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar. Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying they actually believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie about things that make them look better or embellish to get attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to get what they want.

* Here are things to ask yourself: How could this many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts.

* It is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth, they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds upside down and inside out.

* Unmasking the pathological liar is an easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a heavily-fortressed breeding ground.

* Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie, playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these people take it to the extreme.

* From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or adapted if a false story is challenged.

* From Andrea Broadbent "The Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder. Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for language.

* From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty": Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds, believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own goodness.

Want to bet some money, and have me embarass you here?
What say I go pick up one of those guns in the photos above, and take of photo of it in my hand? Would that make you start acting like a adult? Because I can do it any time I want to.

And when all you can do is look for typing and spelling errors, because you can't discuss a firearm, automobile or airplane, you really are pitiful.

The same handful of you clowns show up on every discussion, insulting everyone who has real experience that challenges yours limited view of things. This web site is not for your anger therapy.

Or how about the photo you posted that you said you took in the FN factory, showing a guy assembling a weapon. You claimed that you took the photo and were given clearance by FN to post it.

Then it was shown that the photo was lifted from a Washington Post article and credited to their photographer too.

No you in fact said that FN had to give you clearance to post it because it was classified or sensitive material in relation to their maufacturing process. I remember quite clearly, thanks

This is about gangster handguns. I bet Lee24 would hold his Glock sideways, if he knew what a Glock was.

I think we have it, right there.

This is about gangster handguns. I bet Lee24 would hold his Glock sideways, if he knew what a Glock was.

ThomasMagnum fabricated something and attributed it to me.
The polite term for that ruse is, "creating a straw man".

So you are claiming that your friend is the man in the video?

teal,
What video? What man?
What does this have to do with Gangster Handguns?
Nothing? Then take it to KevinGibson's troll thread.

I have not seen this video, but I will go look at it.
It it is his father, this would be one of Melvin Purvis's sons.
Alston is still living, in Boston, where he teaches college.

The narrator of that video is Ross Beard, a friend of Melvin Purvis and biographer of Carbine Williams, as well as others. He is an authority on many things, including the M1 Carbine.

Maybe you just have a bad memory.

I have a picture of the new Model 70s in the rack at the factory on the production line last week. If it's okay, I will post it here

As I posted before, I have to get permission to post a picture of their rifles inside their plant.

I have persmission on some because the background is not sensitive. I had this one on my laptop. In know...it's not a new Model 70, but it does let you know that the pictures are inside the FN factory, when you compare the work centers, does it not? Have a grand 4th of July.

That same picture was in The State...

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/427724.html

Here's a few...

Which one? The one I posted from a local photographer, which was used by the Washington Post? Or the photos I took of the other Winchester plant a few miles away which Matt Williams claimed did not exist?

You are trapped by your own ignorance, blinded by your own rage, which I presume to be driven by your shriveled ego.

You are trapped by your own ignorance, blinded by your own rage, which I presume to be driven by your shriveled ego.

T_LEE,
I am not sure what you are saying, because I don't think you are, either. It sounds like some sort of petty jealousy or something. Why don't you try again, so I can give you a straight answer.

If you want some more pictures of something, I can take some more of private collection pieces in their cases, or take the weapons out of the cases.

But ask nicely, because I don't respond well to dares, insults and childish taunts.

I didn't post any of the pictures in this thread for rude idiots.
Why would I post something demanded by a rude idiot?

I didn't post any of the pictures in this thread for rude idiots.
Why would I post something demanded by a rude idiot?

but we all know that ain't gonna happen

I said I had to get PERMISSION to post the photo of the machinegun, from the photographer, because it was copyrighted.
I did that, and posted it, and some others of Model 70s in the rack. And I posted some photos I took of the old Winchester plant, which closed down.

Then the peanut gallery started up with new cries about how FN had never built any Model 70s during the USRAC era, in spite of my owning one and knowing two other people who did, too. So they switched to calling me names, and demanding photos of those, but I had enough of their punking for a while.

Politely? The thread topic is not about me or my other rifles.
It is about gangster guns, spun off from another thread.

If you have nothing to say on the thread topic, you should not be posting, especially attacking people who are adding real information to the adult conversation you are unable to join.

You are off the thread topic.
I am responding to trolls in their other thread.
I already shared the Model 70 photos with those who were genuinely interested.

I already shared the Model 70 photos with those who were genuinely interested.

An example of someone not interested in the Model 70s built in SC prior to 2008.

An example of someone not interested in the Model 70s built in SC prior to 2008.

You are off the thread topic.
I am responding to trolls in their other thread.
I already shared the Model 70 photos with those who were genuinely interested.

Do you have the name and phone number of those at Winchester who dispute the manufacture of parts, and assembly of the Model 70 in Columbia, SC prior to 2007?

but I cannot back it up?

I already answered all civil questions.
Why is it the trolls make claims about so-and-so telling them something that disputes what I know and document, but they cannot back it up? Could it be that trolls just make things up to be disruptive?

Stx,
Do you have any direct knowledge of the Model 70 in .375 H&H, or any Model 70s made in South Carolina?

see post above....

"there ain't no picture"