I remember some discussion about a recently available 1911 being imported and selling for around 300 dollars on here some few months ago. What name were they being sold under? and, did they indeed become "a good deal" or did they have some major flaws that later showed up with use? Many thanks.

Tisas. Made in Turkey.

Mine works great.

thank you Hawkeye, that is the one I remember several of you guys talking about. Youngest Son is thinking he needs one of these to try out but I could not remember who made them or who was selling them. thanks again,

Not $300.00 anymore, but here's one source for them. https://www.classicfirearms.com/sds-imports-1911-a1-government/

https://www.jgsales.com/tisas-sds-1911a1-u.s.-army-semi-auto-pistol,-45acp,-5-barrel,-new.-p-104520.html

Turkey is regional power with excellent modern armament industry. I would take a plunge if I needed a 1911-style pistol. Soon they will be like the Chinese Norconia 1911s that sell in US for $500 to $600 (about $350 new in Canada).
Another good option in old-style pistol are Bulgarian High Power type guns. These were made in 9x19 almost entirely from forged parts.

Really happy with my Tisas 1911A1 . Nice trigger , shoots really well and no problems so far(250) rounds.

I thought age was supposed to include wisdom?

According to the owner's manual, they have a warranty against defects, and a warranty repair center in the US, free shipping both ways. If you happen to get one with a problem, they will replace or tune whatever part was defective or problematic, I'm sure. It's bound to happen on some of them, as with all firearms. But I have not heard of any widespread problems with these.

This guy is highly critical of these types of guns, and never pulls punches, but is pleased with his.

As I recall, he makes the mistake of saying that the hammer isn't authentic in look because his original looks different. He doesn't realize that the originals had a couple of different hammer types, depending on who made them.



And here's Hickok45's assessment of an earlier model by the same company.

Don’t know about the 1911, but Cylinder and Slide thinks very highly of their Hi-Power clones.

https://cylinder-slide.com/Item/Tisas1

That's about what the Browning High Powers were going for when they stopped offering them. Likely, as modified by C&S, an excellent pistol.

If you don’t mind going up to $700-800, I have a Magnum Research Desert Eagle 1911 that I like a lot.

The only lowend 1911 worth a schitt is the RIA / Armscor version...........and even then they are close to a throwaway.

The Tisas is a throwaway................YMMV.

Dealt with Turkish schitt enough to know that they honor material specs about as much as the Chinks, & that's not much............TONS of lot to lot variation & heat treatment that is at best, highly variable, depending on the day & the moon phase.

MM

I looked at a Tisas today. Decent slide to frame fit and a very nicely done wadcutter throat in the barrel. Trigger was consistent with GI copies and the finish is sort of a semi-gloss black which is just weird for those of us who grew shooting USGI surplus pistols. But I didn't see anything that looked bad and the guys I know who have them report good function and decent accuracy. To a man they are all seasoned shooters and excellent pistol shots who own quality mainstream guns.

says the guy who bought a shockwave 5000. how is this for wisdom, if you have usable info about these guns call me at home and give report. before dark, and don’t try calling collect.

Wow, quite the difference in opinion on these things. Thanks all for sharing your experiences with them. Are particularly interested in the 9mm version of said pistol. It’s use would be having the living crap shot out of it and living on the pickup floor during its off time. One of my family members wants to expand his shooting experiences away from constant glocking. I am confident in my expert from Florida giving me the full lowdown shortly. Hope he is not stranded out in the glades drinking beer and eating fried gator balls tonight. Again my thanks, much to ponder here.

A cheap 9mm 1911 that will have the living hell shot out of it and then live on the truck floorboard doesn't sound too promising.

TWR, I quite agree with your thought here. But how would a 900 dollar piece make the situation better?

A 1911 of any brand would not be my choice to ride in the floorboard but cheap 1911's are not the most trouble free guns out there when given proper care, add in 9mm and it's a trifecta of opportunity to choke.

1911's are not Glock's. I know a few guys that shoot RI's and they run pretty well once you change out the cheap parts. Can't imagine these being any better but I've only looked at a sample of one and did not shoot it. The dealer trying to interest me in it was much more impressed with it than I was.

Every time a 1911 in 9mm is sold, the ghost of John Browning stomps a kitten. I detest the little quail eating bastards, but I'd hate to be responsible for something like that.

I believe all you need to know about quality pistols can be found at nash&ben.com

Bought my first .45 in the late 80's, an Auto Ordinance that rattled like a 52 Chevy farm truck, traded for a Springfield, then a second Springfield and last was a Kimber Classic and found happiness.

For that sort of job, go with a striker fired gun like an M&P Shield. Less maintenance required to stay reliable.

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I know that and they know that.
We are wondering however about this gun in particular that gives the appearance of a good deal for the proposed task.
A bit more background, it would be Nash looking to buy. Why 9mm? lots of cheap ammo that he does not have to load himself. Why not a real Colt? The ones we have been around were not without faults that one would hope to avoid by purchasing in that price range. Why not a Springfield? That was the first choice until we saw so many good reports on these Turkish Wonders. (and we have not personally seen or heard firsthand of them in 9mm) Said shooter is very accomplished with revolvers and autos. also very learned is teardown and maintenance on 1911, Glocks, Ar's etc. He does not mind having to upgrade parts to keep things shooting correctly. He particularly likes a miniscule Browning 1911 that has been shot pretty much daily by him for the past several years. ( A most generous gift to my sons by a Campfire Member) He is a rather good hand at draw and shoot, aerial targets and prefers the 1911s or revolvers for that. Hence the want for cheap, factory ammo. Lotsa rounds fired on a young guy's pay. His handguns also tend to get worn down to a finish that looks like nickel gone bad rather quickly. Not from abuse, just get drawn, carried, and shot that much.

I know. I'm just joking.

Hell, even I would buy one if I came across it.

They should make a stainless 1911. For $400 or so, that would be a real teeza.

they make a stainless, 70's internal, upgraded trigger, beavertail, etc... $449

All of the nay sayers can say what they want... just meet me at the range and lets shoot you 1911 and my Tisas government model side by side.... My buddy and his Les Baer went home sad this last weekend... until he went by the gun store and bought him a Tisas 1911 government model... his shot as good as mine did... 1/2 inch at 15 yards easy... and for 349.... yes that is one great deal.

for the money, I believe they are the best deal in a 1911... Will all of them shoot like these 2, probably not but these do... The guns are very tight... between 400-500 rounds through mine... not failures.

My Tisas has more than that without a failure to fire of any sort. They are smoking deals.

99% of Turkey's population is muslin. It may be a good firearm, but there is no way in hell I'll ever spend money on one.

The Russians who made all those cheap SKS rifles that came in during the 90s were Communists.

Point!

Kahrs from Moonies and BHP from Mormons. What other great reasons for hating a gun brand can we come up with? Colts and S&W made in a socialist anti-gun state?

That's why I got rid of all my guns with walnut stocks, just in case it was Turkish walnut.

Muslin? WTF are they....mummies?


Muslin (/ˈmʌzlɪn/), is a cotton fabric of plain weave. It is made in a wide range of weights from delicate sheers to coarse sheeting. It gets its name from the city of Mosul, Iraq which the Europeans believed to be its place of origin.


Just messin' with ya....that made me LOL

LGS sells a ton of Rock Rivers and has had no issues with them.

What the......now I gotta ditch my sheets?

This thread's a hoot.

75 more rounds through the Tisas yesterday. Run like a champ and accurate at 50 foot. Some old guys were were impressed and couldn't believe it was a sub $400 gun. Don't know if it's a common thing but it will chamber empty cases from the mag.

The prices seem to be in the $400+ category now. If you can find one.

LOL are you saying that they are bringing a premium? Look at any affordable sub 800 buck handgun and see if they are in stock. Sh*t I can’t even find a gun shop that has a SCCY of any type in stock.

I wish I knew as much as Deflave. I would be a double genius! Be Well, Rustyzipper.

I just left the lgs with one of these, they got 3 in from somewhere. We will see how it does, may get to try it out tomorrow.

Available here:

https://atlanticfirearms.com/products/sds-1911a1-pistol-wwii-us-army

$379.95 isn't quite the deal they were at $299.99 but that's still a very good price for a 1911 and especially given the unanimous reports on the excellent quality of their construction. And especially especially when everybody and their brother are trying to inflate the current price bubble surrounding all handguns these days. Looks like the next best price is $399.99 and most places are out of stock even at that price.

My LGS had a few of them in recently and put a price tag of over $500.00 on them. I guess they're hoping their customers won't realize you can get them for a good bit less online.

I finally shot mine ($299 gun) weekend before last and function was fine - no failures. Accuracy was decent from 15 yards, shooting 200 Gr SWC reloads at 800 fps. I only shot about 50 rounds, so no torture test.

I have had two Rock Islands, a officers and a standard GI clone. Both have been good, not the best but good.

Yep.

My LGS has them for $399 now. Glad I got mine for $299.

They make pretty good throw-aways.............................

MM

Me too. Free shipping, even, as I recall. They were running one day special.

Nah. Your thinking about Hi-Points 😜

$30 shipping. But still a great deal!

Ok, they're not great deal anymore. If you lucky and Trump wins soon you may be able to buy police trade-in Glock .40s for less. For kool $50-$75 more you may even find G21s. I recommend 9x19, but as you know everyone now wants Glocks in this caliber.

Last decent 1911 I got for under $300, was one l bought a long time ago. An old Argentine, one of my favorites. Just the frame and slide left but dang, it will shoot. $195 in select condition. Would not be opposed to one, but have not seen any lately under $500. .

I ordered one of those for about that price, back when that was a thing. Instead of sending me an Argentine Sistema, though, they actually sent me a 1927 made commercial Colt that had been roll marked Property of the Argentine Federal Police in Spanish. It had evidently been refinished since it left the factory. Shot well, but had hardly any rifling left in the barrel. All it's parts were identical to those found on the very first USGI 1911 A1s produced by Colt. These were called the Hartford Argentine 1911s, because they were actually made in Hartford Connecticut by Colt. Argentina originally ordered them from Colt, and only later started making their own Sistema version of it.

I paid $285 for a NIB Colt govt Series 70...................in 1981.

CNC manufacturing processes have caused lots of products to be much better quality.

That's about when I bought my Series 70. I don't remember what I paid. I know it was one of the last years they made them.

Well, no, not really.................just makes them all the same, as in consistent, but not necessarily better in all cases.

MM

I still have all of the original parts, even the magazine is serial-ed to the pistol. Now has a Kart barrel/bushing and a trip via Ed Brown for the rest. My most accurate 45. Seeing these stock going north of $750 now. Mine is not a Colt version. You lucked out on that one. Yes exact 1911A1 specs.

Well,...yes really. I've seen it too often not to know.

So have I, & I do know.

In addition, I've done business in Turkey............have you?

MM

Well I've been to Incerlik a couple of times going to some 'Stan"

Geebus. Almost a thousand bucks for a clone.

I was getting all giddy until I saw that.

Awww, that don't count.

Lol.