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629 6" w a reflex sight Think -4 had the endurance package. If staying 240gr and under, could go w -3.
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For starters, both the gun and cartridge needs to be something you can comfortably hit with at the specified range limit.
Next, you probably want the bullet to work well, or at least consistently, over that entire specified range. Sure, there are bullets that readily expand inside certain velocity windows, but may be less than ideal outside of them.
For general big game hunting, I think most can handle cartridges like the 9mms and 38s well with bullets above 150 grains and provided bullets are up to the task, are a start or even ending for some.
I like to be a bit above that and like a 40 or larger. I'm most content with wheelguns in the 4-5.5 inch barrels because I'm average height and like to carry on the hip. I've used barrels fro 6 to 8, but they aren't handy. I also don't like the brass chasing required as a 38 Super and 10mm owner, albeit they can be fun on occasion.
The cartridge can be a 41,44 or 45, single or double action, but I do need decent target sights. They all seem to work well for deer and hogs.
For my purposes, I like my hunting loads to be the same thing I'd shoot targets or a pop can with, so they are generally fairly wide cast bullets above 1,000 fps but not anything above 1,200, simply because for game under a hundred yards and certainly any target doesn't require more. I've hunted with loads with heavies beyond 1400 and really have seen little, if any increase in killing effect. If you can handle them without missing a step, they do offer a flatter trajectory that aids in hitting, but limits most with round counts on the range as far as fatigue.
I'm in a Smith N frame/Colt Anaconda stage that I haven't seen the need to leave, 41 Mag to 45 Colt cartridges, 220-280gr. cast bullets at 1000-1150 velocity range with 4-5 inch barrels. This quote hits it pretty much on the nose for me. I’ve noticed no difference in killing with higher speeds and 1000-1200fps loads are much more shootable for me. I’ve headshot grouse and squirrels and killed bears and big pigs with the same loads. Accuracy and a good bullet trump horsepower.
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You said, "no scopes," are red dots fair play? Ed Brown LS10mm Pretty nice! I've debated on the red dot, probably better for older eyes but I just can't get over the battery thing, I'm old school curmudgeon. What kind of speeds are you getting out of that long slide/barrel combo? He's addressed that with his co-witnessed suppresser height sights, and in modern dots the batteries last a long time.
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I may have to find some of that powder coat. Nothing like shooting Marylin Monroe Lipstick at 1k fps!
From the moment my daughters first saw my loaded test rounds, they said "Dad, your bullets look like lipstick!" And, I've called them my " lipstick bullets" ever since. Even buddies at the range call them that--so much so that it's not really even funny anymore. Some guy will be saying he needs to get some 300 gr bullets and somebody else will say, "You should take a look at Wade's lipstick bullets. Hey Wade, you got any of them lipstick bullets with you?" It just is what it is. Lipstick Bullets...
Wade
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This request is almost on par with Taffin's perfect packing pistol. While I think I'm in great shape, seems like ounces of gear matter more and more each year. During Elk Season in CO I carry a STI 2011 10mm 5" (2lbs. 14oz loaded with 15 rounds), Kimber 1911 10mm 5" (2 lbs. 14oz. loaded with 9 rounds) or on rare occasion a Mountain Gun in 44mag (2lbs. 13oz loaded with 6 rounds). Revolvers are just so damn loud to shoot without ear pro. Of the three the STI is the most accurate but all are easily capable of hitting deer vitals at 100 yards.
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I use, carry and enjoy my 7-1/2" Ruger Red Hawk in 41 mag and am a huge fan of hard cast bullets. I use it with, or without, a red dot sight and just picked up a set of Meprolight tritium sights for it but haven't installed those yet. I carry it in an across the chest type shoulder holster. My use with it is limited to WI whitetails so far and it just works for me. Also found some Buffalo Bore Keith style hard cast, but haven't gotten around to those yet either.
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I've got a Bisley Super Blackhawk, 44 Mag, 7.5" barrel. Bought it for a range revolver, and if I ever decided to hunt with a handgun. That’d work just fine. Bought my first big bore handgun, a Ruger Super BlackHawk, in 44 Mag with the 7.5” bbl back when I was in HS to shoot Silhouette Competition with. It’s taken many hogs and a few deer too. Of course, Ruger didn’t make a Bisley back in 1978. My first handgun, was the same as yours, also bought in 1978. Along the way I cut it back to 4 5/8", added a Belt Mtn locking pin, Bowen rear sight, and a steel ejector rod housing, It's still a solid revolver and could be a hunter too, but I'd favor the longer sight radius on the 7.5" The Dragoon triggerguard is kind of a hint that it was once a 7.5". Very Nice !!!
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I may have to find some of that powder coat. Nothing like shooting Marylin Monroe Lipstick at 1k fps!
From the moment my daughters first saw my loaded test rounds, they said "Dad, your bullets look like lipstick!" And, I've called them my " lipstick bullets" ever since. Even buddies at the range call them that--so much so that it's not really even funny anymore. Some guy will be saying he needs to get some 300 gr bullets and somebody else will say, "You should take a look at Wade's lipstick bullets. Hey Wade, you got any of them lipstick bullets with you?" It just is what it is. Lipstick Bullets... Killed with a Lipstick Bullet.....is that like being ambushed with a cup of coffee?
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I don't have one at the moment, but my hunting handgun would be a Colt Anaconda with a 6" barrel in 44 magnum.
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I am simply not good enough to try hunting game past about 40 or 50 yards. For years I depended on a S&W model 25 in .45 Colt. Lately I have been using a Glock 40, 10MM with a Trijicon dot sight.
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If for hunting & it needed to be an iron sighted repeater, I'd go revolver all the way. And mainly for sight radius, so that would be 6, 7.5, maybe 8 3/8" . I might even entertain a 10" barrel, Super BH, BFR or Freedom arms.
But sight radius would be what I was after, not additional velocity, as I've killed enough deer with a 44 mag. & 45 Colt to form my own opinion on how much power is needed.
Deer were initially mentioned I believe. Had Polar Bears or the like been brought up I'd change my story.
PPP's are nice & damn handy. I'm a true believer in them & use them. But leaving the house with the intent to exclusively hunt with a handgun means something a bit different IMO.
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Having run revolvers of 4, 6, 7 1/2, 8 3/8 and 9 1/2 on deer If its gonna go in a holster, 6".
Longer would get a sling.
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This 5" Model 29 will absolutely shoot far beyond my abilities. It certainly meets my needs for most any handgun hunting chores.
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This 5" Model 29 will absolutely shoot far beyond my abilities. It certainly meets my needs for most any handgun hunting chores. Wow! I'd say your abilities aren't too far behind (I'm guessing that target was a little further away than 7 yrds.?). I like the stocks too, enough meat for recoil management but not too bulky.
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[quote=chlinstructor][quote=MontanaMarine] My first handgun, was the same as yours, also bought in 1978. Along the way I cut it back to 4 5/8", added a Belt Mtn locking pin, Bowen rear sight, and a steel ejector rod housing, It's still a solid revolver and could be a hunter too, but I'd favor the longer sight radius on the 7.5" The Dragoon triggerguard is kind of a hint that it was once a 7.5". Looks nice. I have the same plan with my Ruger NMSBH 7.5". Is the frontsight the same as it was on the gun with its 7.5" barrel and it was just removed from the cut-off part of the barrel?
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Mine is/was the Colt 8 inch Anaconda and loaded with SWC’s.
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The .44 Mag again. This version is for heavy 300 grain loads. My 7.5" Redhawk. It is zeroed at 100 yards with 300 grain XTPs that it very much prefers, and will shoot into quite tidy little groups. It is actually the only hunting gun I own that I load a jacketed round for, since it shoots them so well.
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This 5" 29-2 has been a favorite general purpose, iron sighted hunting/packing .44 for a while now:
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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This 5" Model 29 will absolutely shoot far beyond my abilities. It certainly meets my needs for most any handgun hunting chores. Wow! I'd say your abilities aren't too far behind (I'm guessing that target was a little further away than 7 yrds.?). I like the stocks too, enough meat for recoil management but not too bulky. Look like Kim Ahrends, stocks. Retro Targets. Love those things on an N frame.
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This 5" Model 29 will absolutely shoot far beyond my abilities. It certainly meets my needs for most any handgun hunting chores. Wow! I'd say your abilities aren't too far behind (I'm guessing that target was a little further away than 7 yrds.?). I like the stocks too, enough meat for recoil management but not too bulky. Yes that gun will definitely drive tacks. That was with some target .44 Russian wadcutter loads that shoot well under an inch at 25 yards.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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