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A while ago we were having another discussion on evolution and someone gave a web address that was the best explanation of why it was true. This website provided evidence that showed that evolution is the only explanation for what we see in animals now.

Who was it and what was the website?

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Here's one that will help set you straight. wink

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/


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Another good one.



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Not what I was looking for.



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Originally Posted by ConradCA
Not what I was looking for.


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
Not what I was looking for.
Just read Why Evolution Is True, by Biology professor Jerry Coyne.

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Curious why one gives a [bleep] whether proof exists or not? Clearly it goes either way. Is it OK for some to believe and some not? I mean what the [bleep]? Seems it is a personal thing that is defined, quite personally, as required. Nothing wrong with that IMO... Some believe, some not and either will receive the "wrath" they believe. [bleep], at least simple really for those not so worried...


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The argument for evolution is almost as strong as that for electricity and nuclear weapons. The article that I an seeking did an excelent job of showing this.



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If you look for "proof", you will find it, whether or not it's truth.


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Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
If you look for "proof", you will find it, whether or not it's truth.


That's the first thing I thought, when I read this....

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Not what I was looking for.


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
A while ago we were having another discussion on evolution and someone gave a web address that was the best explanation of why it was true. This website provided evidence that showed that evolution is the only explanation for what we see in animals now.

Who was it and what was the website?

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As of today there is no "only explanation"

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Is this the one you are looking for?

http://talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html



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Originally Posted by RobJordan
Here's one that will help set you straight. wink

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/


intellegent desing is the biggest crock of chit there is....for every one thing that fits there is a dozen that show the "designer" had to have been high off his arse when he came up with it....a rabbits digestive system comes to mind.....

not to mention the whole thing actually minimizes god when you get down to it....it teaches god is in the gaps there for the more science we understand the less god there is....but thats what you get from a theory that is mostly pushed by lawyers, not academics, not clergy.....its lawyers that picked up the ball an ran with this one to make money suing school districts....


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Originally Posted by rattler
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Here's one that will help set you straight. wink

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/


intellegent desing is the biggest crock of chit there is....for every one thing that fits there is a dozen that show the "designer" had to have been high off his arse when he came up with it....a rabbits digestive system comes to mind.....

not to mention the whole thing actually minimizes god when you get down to it....it teaches god is in the gaps there for the more science we understand the less god there is....but thats what you get from a theory that is mostly pushed by lawyers, not academics, not clergy.....its lawyers that picked up the ball an ran with this one to make money suing school districts....


IIRC Intelligent design came out of the Discovery institute in Seattle. After they lost in court over creation, they rewrote "Of people and panda's" replacing the words creation with intelligent design.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Originally Posted by RobJordan
Here's one that will help set you straight. wink

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/


intellegent desing is the biggest crock of chit there is....for every one thing that fits there is a dozen that show the "designer" had to have been high off his arse when he came up with it....a rabbits digestive system comes to mind.....

not to mention the whole thing actually minimizes god when you get down to it....it teaches god is in the gaps there for the more science we understand the less god there is....but thats what you get from a theory that is mostly pushed by lawyers, not academics, not clergy.....its lawyers that picked up the ball an ran with this one to make money suing school districts....


IIRC Intelligent design came out of the Discovery institute in Seattle. After they lost in court over creation, they rewrote "Of people and panda's" replacing the words creation with intelligent design.


also findit hilarious that a couple of books they hold up as academics supporting have flat out lies in them to prove their point....and not even lies about biological process....they just flat lie about how things are taught.....

watched a funny video where one of the big proponents of intelligent design was taken to task about the Ernst Haeckel diagram still being taught and when they pulled a dozen school biology texts off the shelf in the guys office and IF Haeckel was mentioned at all(in 2/3's he wasnt mentioned at all) it was in passing that he was one of the early scientists....it sure isnt being taught as modern theory.....WTF flat out lie to people bout something so easily checked out....


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When your audience if RobJordorn, or other who wonder why a person would care about evidence, it's easy to lie to them, because they will never fact check your lies. Now with the internet, not only are we able to fact check their lies, we have access achieves where other have already done the fact checking, or posted youtube video's deconstruction their lies with facts and logic.




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i just find it hilarious one of the big names supporting teh whole deal never bothered to even look at the books in his own office.....

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hell 2 of the biggest three pushers of intelligent design cannot even explain to you what intelligent design is because they dont care cause they dont need to know to sue school districts...they just need something else out there so that they can sue school districts......


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
The argument for evolution is almost as strong as that for electricity and nuclear weapons. The article that I an seeking did an excelent job of showing this.


Not even close my friend. For a good eye opener read Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing.

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Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by ConradCA
The argument for evolution is almost as strong as that for electricity and nuclear weapons. The article that I an seeking did an excelent job of showing this.


Not even close my friend. For a good eye opener read Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing.

Jordan


15 members of the discovery institute??

Steve says they are wrong, 1200 times over:

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