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I'm sure glad I bought a lifetime supply of the stuff back when you could get all you wanted for $18 a bag.

Wish I'd of had that same foresight before the 22LR glut.
You can bet your ass I'm stocked up for life now though.

I assume this is a joke as 270 wsm is also hard to find. For any thinking of doing so.
It is much easier to acheive positive headspace by necking down than by necking up.

Don't get too comfortable with Hornady.. and make sure you stock up on what you like/need, because they WILL leave you stranded.

For every new product they release, one of their classics goes by the wayside. I can't tell you how many bullets they have discontinued over the past ten or twelve years that I have used, along with many guys I know. ...and not just obscure bullets either.. the latest to get the axe was the .257 100 grain Interlock. Hornady has been phasing out cup and core bullets for the newest fads for over a decade now. I have nothing against new bullet technology, but not at the expense of what already works, and people depend on.

I have all but quit using their components, I like their offerings, I just don't care for Hornady's track record of component dependability.

I will stick to the classics.

Spotshooter, I just bought some once fired Federal 7mm WSM brass from Brassman from the classifieds here. I'd probably rather have new Winchester brass myself, but I'll take what I can get at this point. I reload for rifles in .25-20, .32-20, .30-40 Krag, .30 Remington, .22 Hornett, 7mm WSM and alot of the more standard calibers. I am glad to see Starline Brass stepping up and manufacturing brass for some of the older calibers. I feel your pain. Brassman was prompt on his shipping and an honest man to deal with.

Try to find Win. 351 brass!

I think your comment illustrates that there is no guarantee from any of the manufacturers to continue supporting or producing a particular product. If there is a bullet, rifle, brass, or whatever you are fond of, it's best to pounce while it is still available. There are a few rifles I wish I had bought when they were still produced. Glad I did get a LH Ruger MKII before they stopped making them.

Sierra has just been purchased. So I would say there is uncertainty in their future as to what they continue to support. In fact, referencing the OP, I see no advantage for Hornady buying Winchester Olin. Hornady already makes brass, bullets and ammunition. No telling what would get dropped from what's left of Winchester's ammunition offerings. At least for now, Winchester provides one more offering competing in the marketplace even if they aren't making everything we want them to.

I found a very nice .351 Self Loader here in the classifieds one day and determined that I needed it badly. I have a soft spot for old rifles and odd calibers. Upon trying to find some brass before I purchased it, I sadly decided I could live without it. Kind of wish I bought it anyway, but I didn't. They are really neat and classy little rifles.

No fretting from me, as I have a good supply of the 7wsm brass.

I will say this, I finally got around to shooting my 300 wsm and 7 wsm yesterday. (both kimber montana) The 7 wsm was considerably more pleasant to shoot. Granted I was shooting a 140gr out of the 7 and 168 out of the 300.

Going to take the 7 for a hike tomorrow.

351 sl can be made from 223 brass but you will need to trim your beard a few times before you have a supply of it.

Ah winchester could make the brass every 5 years like they used to, the fact that they dropped the 7 WSM after developing shows they lost focus on the customer who they made it for.
I'm not saying they don't need to make money - any idiot can charge enough to cover costs, but it takes a real idiot to cut a product line for ammo you drove into the market. Or of course you want to drive away customers, in that case put the corp. ship in a downward spiral, and then find a new job after 3 years and leave the rest of the crew to deal with your screw ups. (Talking here about how long it takes for a VP or higher who isn't worth much to leave).

My bet is there are some older guys at Winchester that are dealing with a bunch of young pup cool guy jack ass corporate types -- I.e. The place is going down the [bleep], with new management - that don't have the same fiber as the old crew.

Hornady might make them look bad by making 7 WSM brass - hell they could price it high and cover costs and still break even, plus moving more loaders over their way.

And yes I do hope Olin / Winchester find the thread.

As a publicly traded company, the decision makers at Olin are probably focused on increasing share holder equity, so they try to make decisions that will result in the highest income. If they were able to generate a higher income by making more loaded ammo and/or component brass for their orphaned cartridges, they probably would, as management bonuses are generally tied to success and one of the key indicators of success is share price. Olin's share price has risen by about 50% in the past year, so whatever they are currently doing to achieve those results is likely to continue.

Of course the simple answer is to buy enough brass to last through the life of the barrel when you buy it. With annealing and modest loads, that's not all that much brass....

.22lr, .223, .30-06, 270, 7.62x39, .45-70. For my locale, don't feel a need for anything else.

If I start going out west more often, might be a .338 and 6.5 in the future somewhere, too.

Powder Valley has Win brand 270WSM. No thing to neck to .308 then back down to .284 and making a false shoulder to get the 1st shot firmly on the bolt face so as to move the shoulder forward fully.

Hornady can't even make ammo that goes bang. They have s big problem with misfires. They can keep that crap and I hope they don't pick up Winchester and ruin it.

^ And that is about the wisest thing said herein.

I shoot 7mm Rem mag (among other things) and will be getting 7mm-08s for my kids. Both have components easily sourced (currently anyway...).

I've shot a few hundred rounds of Hornady factory loads in 223, 243, 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, and 30-30 over the past 12 months and haven't had a single misfire that I recall.

Starline is making 338 Federal brass.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018967815/starline-reloading-brass-338-federal