Thank you for all the responses and suggestions. I realize I won't find good hunting areas without other hunters. I was more looking for a happy medium if you were me. I will look into the Wyoming option but the dates of the hunt are unfortunately an important factor due to my job and kids sports seasons.

The late October or early November is the best window I have seen for me.

My kids are in junior high but in very good shape. I will get tired before they will.

Additional question... is the youth nonresident tag good for any sex in any otc unit or just the ones that allow any sex.

So any actual unit suggestions based on those things? BTW I have been through the Colorado site and I can pick a unit on my own... I would rather hear from people who know much better than I do what might fit my needs better.

Last edited by str8ball; 07/15/15.