This thread has been a hoot to read through, & since about everything that could be said has been said, I can only say that I just love the (idiotic & news-flashy) term "active shooter". laugh

But anyone carrying or using a gun, long or short would be well advised to be somewhat proficient over most of the capable range of the weapon.

And, personally, I see very little point for a gun used as an EDC weapon not to have a lethal & effective working range well past 50 yards. (Not talking about a BUG.........)

MM