Tell you how I like to "group" a hunting rifle. Take a full sized deer/elk/moose target...no dots or prominent markings over vital areas. You know...the way they look when you hunt them.

Hang them at 300-600 yards,and shoot them from field positions. Then see how well you "group" on a monolithic back ground at distance with your hunting scope. Your group SHOULD center the vitals regardless. Those are the groups I care about.

Sorry to derail the thread....had to get that out. blush smile





The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.