Originally Posted by KyWindageII
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by KyWindageII
We have very serious problems with firearms in this country and what you guys preach isn't helping. I want RESPONSIBLE people to have firearms and that requires checking if they are.

Very serious problems? Such as the homicide rate being at an almost all time low since records started being kept in 1906?

That kind of serious problem?

Or is it maybe that you're just another guy who fell for the mainstream media's paranois and ignorance?


The serious problem is that the US homicide rate is four times the rate of most Western European countries, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, and Eight times the rate of Switzerland where most have firearms and those that do are licensed.

This has nothing to do with paranoia/ignorance just looking at cold hard data available to all.


The data is soft and extremely mushy...

Who is doing the counting?

What are they counting?

Why are they counting?

When do they count?

How do they count?

Include suicides in the US numbers but nowhere else and the numbers are close. Exclude suicides and the even with the race issues the US drops a bunch of places.

Just use race and compare homeland numbers to US numbers and the answers are pretty obvious it ain't the guns causing the problems...


Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.