Here's a 180 at 2850 outta a sub-8lb all-up .300 WSM.... and that includes the can. It's also about the same length as a 24" barreled Rem LA.... recoil is more than tolerable.... as is noise.... as you can see on the video...

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You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......