Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
The actual standard for LE is that of a how reasonable LEO (not a citizen) would act, with the information he had at the time he made the decision, given his prior training, general orders, state law and specific agency regulation(s) that apply if any.
That's a recent corruption in our law, created by the courts in order to make the job of police forces easier and less risky. Permitting cops to be judged by the standard of the reasonable cop, however, rather than by that of the reasonable and prudent person, is akin to permitting KKK members, who have just murdered a black man for dating a white woman, to be judged by the standard of the reasonable KKK member. It permits the development a good old boy network standard in the law, the old "us vs them" culture. We're witnessing the natural and unavoidable outcome of that change in legal standard.


If your comments weren't so outrageously ridiculous on their own, I'd say something more than that.

Easier and less risky? When did you last put on the uniform and answer calls at 2:30 am, without knowing what waits in that car, inside the house or the surrounds? I would try to make a reasonable argument to persuade you away from the ridiculous position you've taken. I'll just say that one of the few things I'll agree with Lincoln on is this advice I'll offer you on this topic, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt."

Nuff said. Call a hippie next time your cookies are burning in the oven instead of dialing 911, AGAIN. Have a safe and peachy day, TRH.


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Deus vult!

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