I know what ya mean Bob. They did used to be bombs IIRC.

I was ruined on BT apparently because I tried them when they first came out. Mostly in 7mm and .277. I personally have only killed 1 deer with a 270 Win. It was with an early version 130 NBT. But my bud and his late dad killed a bunch with those 130s that I saw. Every kill in both 7mm and 270 was just.......messy........