I picked up a few boxes on sale a couple of weeks ago - $14.40 per box, not seconds. I'm going to load some reduced loads for practice - anyone got any good data using 4198? - and then load some to somewhere around Finn Aagaard's favorite load: about 2600 fps. I have a couple of FWTs that might like them, and it should take care of everything I'm going to hunt.


"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown