If Jon Sundra sees this thread, he can weigh in prett heavily. In an article a few years ago, he wrote that he had taken more game with the 154 Hornady than any other bullet, with 7mmsof all sizes and velocities. I recommende this bullet to a friend 9yrs ago for a plains game safari, and he was tickled with the accuracy and performance in his 7 Rem mag. Another friend loaded some for his wife's 7-08 3yrs ago, and she downed a nice 3x3 elk with one shot. It staggered about 30 yards and dropped.