Dude, get a life. The guy wants a great hunting dog, not necessarily a trial champion. You'll get both out of the forementioned kennel(s), I am sure.....to the original poster, or anyone else, my experience has been one of long lived, very healthy, OFA'd dogs, that will hunt, with a very strong instinct, to find birds. I don't have a stake in the kennel, just good, positive experiences, as have others, I have come in contact, over the years.
