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Yes Sir Bob's loads are like a 450/400 NE 3" in effect, from his .458 WM, 400-grainer at 2150 fps, very nice.
Sir Jerry has some BPCR loads that duplicate the sort of loads that Selous used in Africa for the Big Five, from his .461 Gibbs Farquharson.

(Aside: The .461 Gibbs No. 1 original load was a 480-gr paper-patched with 85 gr of BP for about 1300 fps in the mid to late 1870s.
That duplicated the .577/.450 Martini-Henry.
Same as the .45-70 ballistics of a sharpsguy +500-yard African plains game load.
About 1881, Selous was most fond of the 540-gr PP bullet with 75 gr of BP, and he even used a 360-gr PP bullet with 90 grains of BP for the soft-skinned stuff.
By 1882 the .461 Gibbs No. 2 was in vogue, using 570-gr PP bullets with 90 gr of BP for about 1350 fps in the longish barrel, +/- 30".
Also by then the 360-gr Express HP & PP bullet got a mere 100 gr of BP for about 1700 fps.)

As you were, here is Sir Jerry/gunner500 demonstrating some loads with paper-patched lead bullets and BPCR with barrel sights.

"About to send 530 gr of paper patched lead into that cape buffalo."



"Putting finisher in buff at PH request."



".45-70 Shiloh, job completed."



"Putting finisher in zebra."



"Another testament to 458 cal, black powder and paper patched lead."



Another place and another time:

"Bison, 212 yards, Shiloh 45-70, 530-gr paper patch."



"Bison afterkill."



Looks like the taste of victory was mighty fine, especially the Scotch whisky, from the looks of the bottles.
I never pass on a Buffalo Trace, bourbon whiskey.