Most of my hunting is in thick woods so the range is usually right under the tree. Early season I hunt with a T/C carbine with an 18" .357 Max barrel. It wore a 2.5 compact for years, then I put a Sightron 1.75-5. After the leaves fall I put a 30-30 barrel on. That barrel had a 4x till about ten years ago when I put a 2.5-8 on it.