a 45-70 on gophers, WOW!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> The best I've done is with my 338 WMag. Problem is, however, you can't find no bullet hole. In fact, you don't find much of anything. It is a pretty humane way of dispatching an animal isn't it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />