Well will all due deference to Kevin Roberton (and who am I to dare say that!)I've read his books and theories and I don't agree with him. That older "slower is better" theory might have been true with traditional cup and core bullets and old fashioned solids, but with today's monometal solids, the 460 outpenetrates them all. I can't recall the testing protocol, but the 460 was the penetration king. jorge

A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”