jim62--My life is not about trying to find a load for a cranky rifle. A long time ago I figured out that life is too short to tolerate tempermental women and tempermental rifles. I have a wonderful wife and a gunsafe full of accurate rifles.

Maybe you have had good luck with your 1886s. Granted, mine is a sample of one, but it won't reliably hit a dinner plate at 100 yards. To me, a chef is only as good as the last meal he serves in his restaurant. Poor food means I ain't eatin' there anymore. If my 86 happened to turn out to be a dog, so be it. FWIW, my Marlin Cowboy is the only one of those I have ever owned, and it shoots lights out--and it is ALSO A SAMPLE OF ONE. My Cowboy Marlin Shoots, and my 1886 doesn't. Get over it.