Thanks for the info....More food for thought! Bullets are funny things. The ones that don't look that good in the ballistic charts sometimes turn out to be the best game getters. I will admit though, I like the blazing speed and flatter trajectorys of the 140's with a high BC. But in the deep woods I would not hesitate to launch one of those 175's just to see what happens. My favorite swamp bullet for the 7mm is Hornady's 154 RN. Works great!