Shot a doe this fall with the White and a 460gr. no-excuse conical. Not dead nuts front on but pretty close. Clipped the point of the shoulder (near side) going in and found the bullet under the hide after travelling throught the opposing ham. Cool thing was with that big slow slug the HQ wasn't hurt at all, just a ragged hole. Couldn't have found an angle to go much further through a deer. Gotta love kenetic energy. was also the nicest looking mushroomed bullet I've ever seen - lost 5 grains.