In Europe the 8x57IS is loaded to higher pressure level than in US. In France some of us handload it.

150grs Speer2277, RWS case, RWS5341 primer or Rem 91/2, 49grs french Vectan powder close to 3031, around 2900fps at 45000psi

Rws SG 187grs, RWS case, Rws5341 primer, 52 grs Vectan SP7 (same as Big Game different lots), 2750fps at 49000psi

Just some exemples of what the old round can do. And can do better.

Dom



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