Originally Posted by 458Win
I agree that large bore, hard cast lead bullets are still as effective as ever. I feel perfectly well armed with my Brn 86 45-70 stuffed with 430 gr buffalo Bore loads.


After reading all the advice...and talking to those mauled and charged...I think I will go with both (2 guys or more...) the Marlin SBL 45-70 w/Garrett's 540gr. Hammerhead load and dumbed down .458 hand loads.
( cThe consensus on most forums is that Garrett makes the best factory ammo for the 45-70).. I have been shown that hand load "down", the .458 WM to near the hot loads of the 45-70., and the lower MV w/heavy bullets produce deeper penetration... no need for full magnum .458 factory loads.