Tweny or so years ago, I was at a gun shop when a guy traded two Like new Zeiss 4X for 3-9, or somewhere in that range. They were like new, mounted but never hunted. I bought both. I foolishly let one of them go to seal the deal on a rifle that I wanted to move. The one I still have is on a small ring Browning Safari .308. I would like to run into another half dozen at the deal I got on those two. I still use lots of vntage 3X and 4X scopes from Burris, Weaver, Leupold, and Lyman. Yes, there are scopes made now that are more refined than some of them, but I just aim the rifles with them. I use something else to look at the planets. jack


"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people...who have...rejoiced in their loss of freedom....Blame the people who hail him when he speaks of the 'new, wonderful, good, society'...to mean ,..living fatly at the expense of the industrious." Cicero