There is huge difference between old bulls and the younger ones. I personally know several guys that have killed young bulls close enough to roads to load them whole. I know no one who has done it on public land with a 4 yr. old plus bull. E
E, Others I know an myself hunt public land have consistently taken 3-5 year old bulls. This is another of your "if it's not possible for me then it's not possible for ANYBODY" post. Get real man, I feel I see more mature animals during season than I do scouting but, we/I hunt nothing but escape routes that Joe 4 Wheeler are going to push animals to me. When hunting mature elk you can't be oblivious to Joe 4 Wheeler and what he can do for you. This year I went in alone but, went in 13 miles from any road with a couple mules. I could have shot (4) 3-4 year class animals in 3 days!! There smart but you have to be smarter.
