I bought a 17 fireball last winter, love that little rifle. I shoot a lot of sage rats. I shoot rats with 17fb,17rem, 204ruger, 221fb, 222rem, 223rem and 22-250rem. Since I got the 17fb it gets the most use, lol my other rat guns are getting jealous. I guess I better buy a 17 hornet to give the 17fb a rest lol. Ed