Where does the 450 Marlin fit in with these calibers? Thanks
The 450 M. is essentially the same cartridge as the 45-70 but loaded to much higher pressure, which gets more velocity.
The case is designed so it will not chamber in a 45-70 to avoid damage to older low pressure firearm actions.
You can load the 45-70 to the same higher pressures in more modern guns that will handle the pressure safely, but have to be careful not to load the high pressure rounds/handloads in an older gun that will not survive the pressure.
Ted
There are pictures on the internet of blown up .45-70, 1895 Marlins. Check it out and if you don't find any, I'll post some.
I'm a .45-70 fan, owning around 5-6 in different configurations, a couple are 1895's. I own no .444's and am not in the market for one.
The .444 round is slimmer than the .45-70, resulting in more steel surrounding the ctg, especially at the weak point of the 1895 receiver, ahead of the ejection port, right side of the barrel.
I've never seen a .444 blown up. There may be fewer of them out there, or the set up may be stronger due to the smaller diameter of the .444 case.
I wonder what Marlin did to strengthen the .450, 1895 receiver/barrel at the weak spot. The .450 case may be stronger than the .45-70 case, but I don't see how the gun could be strengthened at that spot. The design is what it is and those two rounds have the same case body diameter.
DF
