in my scenario, it wasnt a family auction for the guns. i put estate auction but it was an auction where a semi truck garage closed down and everyone was still living. and i thing the guns were consignment. but when a guy who own the gun who consgned it is there bidding on it there is no justice in that. if thats the case there needs to be a reserve. not someone bidding up their own gun against you. im pretty sure he had several guns in the acution becuz i seen him bidding more than once also.