B257, I've got a couple of dumb question for you, What do the "gun club" hulls look like? At our club it looks like everybody shoots either Nobel Sport or Winchester. Also, are the ribbed (12 ga) W and Universal hulls exactly the same and further are they HS hulls? The appear to be identical to the HS shown in my Lyman #5 book except that they are ribbed. Muddy
