My creedmoor rounds with a 140 vld shoot best at 2.89" coal. It's on a tac 30 aw so it's ok there but my rem actions mag boxes only allow out to 2.83". It was chambered with the standard creedmoor reamer which has .199" freebore which is a lot. You can get a creedmoor reamer with less freebore but people have them had pressure issues with factory ammo. The Lapua is a shorter case and allows you to seat things out a bit and still be under 2.83".

That's the irony of the creedmoor. They touted it as a great short action round and then had to give it so much freebore that you can't kiss with a vld and fit in a rem short action. I still think the creedmoor is a great round but the Lapua fits a short mag box better and leaves you more room to chase.

Bb