Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by 4ager
Just for reference, since Rob is being disingenuous about the origins of his hatred:

Homosexuality in Nature -

Yale Scientific report: http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/

National Geographic commentary: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal_2.html

NYT reporting on a study of albatross: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/magazine/04animals-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

For additional reference, since Rob brought up the US Constitution and slavery, how about Article I, Section 2, Paragraph 2, first line:

Originally Posted by US Constitution
Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.


Oh, and Article IV, Section 2, paragraph 3?

Originally Posted by US Constitution
No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.


And now, Rob, in his own words, here: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/9238771

There are plenty others where Rob actually admits where his rationale comes from, and it's a religious belief system that - perish the thought - also condoned the same slavery that he said it didn't and couldn't. Twisting a religion and it's history to suit one's own agenda? Naw, that's never happened before, has it?


Utterly and completely false 4ager. I'll respond with a point-by-point refutation later today.


Oh, please do. I can't wait for you to refute what the Yale scientists observed and reported on in one of the oldest peer reviewed scientific journals in the US. Equally so, it'll be fascinating to know how the Constitution didn't actually say what it said. Those will rank up there with you trying to convince yourself (as no one else is going to buy it) that you didn't say what you actually said.

Eventually, I'll take your positions apart on each point, but I'm a little busy right now living my life.

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.