357 in a rifle, nears thutty thutty territory 1582050 and quite deadly while very mild blast n nil recoil.

6.5BR is the most Uber under appreciated wink

Guy over on the Grendel forum dumped his nice buck at 500 yds
Using a 6.5 Grendel. A BR gives about 150fps over - and both have no more recoil than a 243. That the avg Joe would be shocked how deadly a BR class round is - kills as well as a Mag a Numb