The Remington "Gun Cubs" hull with the chrome base load extremely well in 12 and 20 gauge giving you a nice finished crimp. I have been loading them for years using the Winchester 209 primer as a replacement primer. As Mag410 stated I used Remington 209 primers loading the STS and gun club hulls for a while but due to pricing and availability I went back to the Winchester 209 primer with no issues.

The "Super X" hulls from Winchesters promo loads are trash.... just throw them away.

Why Winchester changed to the separate base wad in the "HS" hull from the compression formed hull is beyond me. The compression formed hull was the number one for shot shell reloaders since the 60's.

Since the change the Remington "STS" hull is the hull
shot shell most target shooters use.

If you need hulls "PM" me you needs.

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