I had an advanced collector start whinning like a little girl because the true to the gun box was a little to tattered on one end! There was absolute no doubt the gun was NIB and it was the box the gun came in! He started pissing and whinning about 200 bucks over the damn box and I very nicely said sir thats fine, I gathered my NIB gun up and put it in the back seat of my truck and put the go home in gear! I had driven 86 miles to show the gun, he called 3 times and I told the azz hole I had scoped it up ,zeroed her in and was going to hunt hell out of it! He will not waste my time nor his again in this world!!! very best WinPoor