I started with the 257 in the mid 1980's. My rifle is a Mannlicher 1952 model and a low power scope. Usually a Leupold 1.5x5 or something similar. We don't have to shoot very far down here. I always had great luck with anything that weighed 100 grains. It is just not complicated when what you hunt is deer and you pick your shots, which I do with anything I shoot. Great round. I am now using a Sako with an after market barrel. I'm saving my Mannlicher for my Grandson but I'm still using any good grade 100 grain bullets, Sierra this past year.