I have three .30-30's. A '49 Winchester 94, a '79 Winchester 94 XTR and a Marlin 336. The Win's both have Williams receiver sights and the Marlin wears a Weaver K-2.5. I've killed more deer with those rifles over the years than any others I've ever owned. Killed one at 314 yards with the '49 Winchester. One shot through the top of the heart and dead after a 30 yard death run. Mostly just use factory ammo and they'll all group 3 shots under 2" at 100 with one brand or another. So much for needing expensive rifles, premium optics and handloads stuffed with high BC bullets to consistently fill deer tags. Only if you SUCK I reckon.