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Pretty much nails it, indeed. They've already forgot about the Texas Veterinarian who stuck an arrow thru the neighbors tabby cat....
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Tabby should have stayed in his own yard.
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The confirmation that U.S. authorities want to speak with Palmer comes as several dozen House Democrats, calling Cecil’s death a “reminder of the perils the African lion faces,” are urging the Interior Department to quickly boost protections for the iconic species.
Great. It's unfortunate that these idiots don't have far more pressing needs on our turf. Ain't that the damn truth!
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amazing to me how emotional and stupid so many folks are.
po Cecil (sorry poboy)
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...he might get more media coverage than George Zimmerman
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We can harvest for their monetary value, the body parts of innocent children, who experience horrific, agonizing pain as their little bodies are literally ripped asunder in- utero (with the cooperation of their own mothers) without so much as a peep of protest from the public (with the consent and blessing of the courts actually). Yet there is outrage when an old-aged animal is killed (which, in nature would die of disease, starvation or predation anyway). We have utterly lost any sense and perspective of what is right and what is wrong.
Jordan try for a little more drama next time...my gawd My Gawd indeed! The description of abortion I gave is precisely accurate for any fetus over 150 days old (and probably for those much younger). Yet there is nary a peep of protest from the very people who are up in arms over the killing of an animal by a licensed hunter who had no idea his guides had lured it off a reservation.
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Some more reading on the subject for you guys: [bleep] Dentist, Conservationist
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Lion murderer Walt Palmer is an [bleep]. But, he’s also an [bleep] who’s contributed more money to animal conservation in Africa than pretty much anyone else. In fact, trophy hunters like him are a large part of the reason we still have animals like lions at all. Maybe a side effect is that this side of the argument will get out. In the meantime its pure politics. Coming up to an election year the Libs want ANYTHING that can make the political Right look bad. Now we are all painted as unethical torturers who inflict horrible pain on beautiful wild animals so as to get our rocks off. ANYTHING that can oblige Conservatives to tear each other down. Already worked in spades with the Confederate flag. Support that flag being flown and you're painted as a "racist", support it being taken down if it offends enough folks and half of Conservatives wont vote for you. Look for this lion issue to be drug out as long as they can. The Dentist WILL be charged, with something, just so they can bring him to trial. Next year. Birdwatcher
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I'm telling you he will be charged with a Lacey Act violation and broken by the Feds.
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I'm telling you he will be charged with a Lacey Act violation and broken by the Feds. You are probably right. They don't GAF either. It's just the latest distraction from the debt, deficit, lack of jobs, traitor in the Whitehouse, liars in the Senate, etc. More people are worried about Cecil than Ambassador Stevens.
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I'm not Clinton fan, but charges were proffered and millions of dollars spent trying to impeach him over an inconsequential lie told in response to something that was not Congress' business in the first place. McConnell lies about consequential things in response to things that are everybody's business and the GOP defends him with all their might.
Did Cecil get eaten too?
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I'm fully betting that "our" government will enact an importation ban on African Lions, if not ALL big cats into the U.S, in an effort to appease the angry mob.
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I'm fully betting that "our" government will enact an importation ban on African Lions, if not ALL big cats into the U.S, in an effort to appease the angry mob. Yep. This almost guarantees the USFWS to declare the African lion "threatened", thereby shutting down the legal importation of any lion parts from any hunts at all. Poaching will, of course, go through the roof then.
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Yep. The only way to really protect the African animals is if they have value associated with them. People spending big money to hunt them gives them this value, without it they're screwed.
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The gullible public, brainwashed for generations by Disney animal characters, talking and acting human, identify wildlife in that light. Cecil was people more than lion, a wicked hunter killing him was nothing less than cold blooded murder.
They have no concept of range capacity, population dynamics and true wildlife conservation.
Evidently this dentist has some compulsion for pushing the envelope. I say that because it's reported he had other game hunting issues.
Seems he was promised the hunt he was seeking and went with these guys, who took steps to produce a trophy without regard for rules and regs. A compulsive type will cut corners and seek those who think like he does.
The dentist may be an innocent victim, but I doubt it. He went with those who would produce what he wanted, no questions asked. But, I don't want to judge the doctor, just guessing until we know more.
I have a good friend who is a compulsive hunter (also a doctor), who went to Africa to kill an elephant with a spear. He had a special spear made, a take down type that would deliver curare. He wounded an elephant and the PH had to finish the animal with a .470 NE.
This guy got into a Lacy Act Federal prosecution because there is no spear season for elephants. The PH got in big trouble with his local government, seems he was fined and lost his license. My friend professionally videoed the hunt, his CD becoming prime evidence in Fed Court. His defense that the .470 NE actually killed the animal didn't hold water. He got zapped, lost his U.S. hunting license for 3 yrs. and paid a hefty fine plus big legal bills.
I see similarities between these two.
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FYI - the antis and the global propaganda ministry are already turning their attention to other American hunters; Kendall Jones is in the crosshairs (again).
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I was contacted a couple of days ago by a well-known reporter/writer who asked me to comment on the killing of the lion people in Zimbabwe named Cecil. I declined because, like most people, I know only what I've read in the media -- not what actually took place -- and I have not followed the story closely enough to be able to make an informed opinion.
I'm glad I declined to comment because I just checked the story and the writer editorialized on one comment to make it look more one-sided than it was. Another commenter made a statement that he can't possibly know to be true. A third point was made purely on the basis of "reports" that were not more than rumor. The article could have been worse, but I'm glad I didn't comment and get my name mixed up with that.
Steve.
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