Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, the gorilla video

Oh I understand now.

Still, an electric fence set at an appropriate 'punch', would make it almost impossible for anybody to get in.

Bottom line, the kid did get in.

Where were the parents?

donsm70

Where are all of you perfect parents who are always in complete control of your kids? Because I'm around a lot of parents and a lot of kids and I've never seen any of you.

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I must have had perfect parents because when I went to the zoo with them there's no damn way they would have let me even look like I was thinking of going over, under or through the first railing let alone make it over three barriers.

My kids came equipped with hands that fit perfectly in mine when we were places that I wanted to control them beyond voice control, which worked very well too, since we believed in spanking. I also knew how to count and how many I had with me at any time and made sure I kept them in eyesight and close at hand. I used these techniques to my and their advantage when around questionable surroundings and always if caged wild animals were present. I doubt I'm totally alone, though, it would appear, nearly.

No one's ever had to kill a gorilla because I didn't watch my kid.

No one ever had to kill a gorilla because my parents didn't watch me.

This isn't like he snuck some beers when they weren't around. The "family" went there together to look at animals together and should have stopped the ordeal LONG before he cleared 3 different barriers. Particularly a 3 year old. And I damn sure do blame the parents for the entire deal. ALL of it.

I don't blame the zoo for putting the gorilla down - remember they live with this thing 24/7 and know how it behaves and what it's like when they're in its enclosure. They had the BEST idea and experience with the gorilla to know how he would handle the situation of the kid in there. Good shoot.

Don't really blame the kid - too young to know better.

That leaves the parents for being so completely incompetent that sterilization should be on the menu. If only as a deterrent for others...

As long as they saw you contemplating it.

Let's see, I've made an algebra mistake at some time so now I'm not qualified to grade a freshman math test?

My parents and their contemporaries weren't perfect, but I guarantee you a lot of child behavior I see commonly exhibited today was not tolerated in my day.

Kid1 falls down, Mom kneels down to pick her up and console her. Kid2 chases bird into bushes. Mom immediately starts looking for Kid2. Kid2 is following bird, then distracted by the water and apparent slide someone made for him. Kid2 heads into moat. Mom is still hysterically looking for kid.

That's completely plausible. And could happen to anyone. Even super parents like we have here.

It's not like the Mom watched kid jump into the moat, all she had to do was turn her head for five seconds. You can imagine that she never noticed her kid missing, but you can also imagine that a great mom made a mistake that anyone else could have.

I don't know which was true, I just choose not to condemn the mom based on my imagination.

Do you have kids?




Dave

If Kid 2 isn't ready to stand still for a minute without a leash then he isn't ready to be out in public without one on one supervision. Whose responsibility is that?

No, and that makes no difference either.

Kudos to the zoo for acting the way they did and in a timely manner.

It was no time for fugking around and they made the right call.




Dave

Sure it does.

Because if you had kids you'd recall one or two "oh schit" moments when they disappeared on your ass.

It happens to the best of parents.





Dave

Oh schit moments have always happened. My point was the general level of behavior and discipline has declined, and as a result the probability of "moments" has increased.

There's two types of parents, and you can see both types in any grocery store.

The first kind let their kids run all around the store, and get into whatever they want to get into...

The second kind has the kids around the cart, and they are quiet and polite, and even help push the cart and watch after their younger siblings.

Guess which type parent had a kid fall into the gorilla exhibit?

We all have differing opinions on "good parenting". But I fail to see how parents that let their children run wild are not culpable when they run straight into the arms of trouble. At least partially.

If one doesn't have them then one can't understand.

A kid screwed up, a gorilla was killed because of it. The world kept right on churning round and round.

Similar fallacy: Since I'm not a tenor in a professional opera company I can't say Roseanne's rendition of The Star Spangled Banner was bad.

You just can't[or won't] ever understand. There is nothing wrong with it, you just cannot understand.
I'm not saying that a certain percentage of parents these days do most anything but parenting, but unless you've 'been there done that' you really just won't understand.