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What does free will have to do with earthquakes, tsunami's, floods, droughts, malaria etc?

Yeah, let's get our facts from scientists, the same bunch of clowns that brought us global warming. Great idea.

Parts of the bible that paint a picture of God which are contrary to what a man knows God's nature to be should be counted of no worth to him.

Personally, I find most of Genesis to be somewhat true in the sense that most of the characters of Aesop were based on truths, but you can't take it literally. It probably was from oral traditions that morphed who knows how much, or from too many misinterpreted or otherwise untranslatable rewrites. Most of you read King James bible or more modern versions that were mostly taken from there. Heck I can't hardly understand Chaucer and that wasn't much before King James,They even claim that it is English but Jame's scholars translated words from Arabic, Hebrew, Sanskrit, Latin, and other languages that were more than a thousand years old in times that language changed much faster than it has since the written word has become much more widespread, I believe they got it all mixed up literally, even if the gist of it all is still there.

Just look at the first few pages if you don't think so. In Genesis 1, God made man and woman, then Adam named stuff and etc. In Genesis 2, Adam is lonely so God makes his rib into a woman (what happened to the one he made in book 1?) Then there is Cain and Able, and Cain's wife - who is she, where did those people in Nod come from? That is just for starters all of Genesis follows this pattern, but it is really old, and as I said before, probably largely an attempt to first write an oral tradition. The closer we get to the era of Christ the more accurate, and the better the writing skills of the chroniclers gets. We know plenty of Cesar, Alexander, Cicero, and many others, Christ as well, but most of the things that are considered silly by Atheists are all found in Genesis. It comes at the very dawn of written history which explains why it can't be taken literally in my opinion, but that doesn't necessarily make it false in essence. That probably is not what many other people believe, but it is my belief and allows me to be religious, non-denominational and rational.

Preview of what the US would look like if the religious right ever got the power they seek...

Funny thing is. The religious right Founded America and wrote its founding documents. You must have missed that in History Class.

None of those things come from God. Some uninformed Christians may tell you so but they are all a result of man's free will. All evil entered into the world through sin, and sin through man's choice.

As has been said ,we live in a fallen world where bad things happen. Everything doesn't happen because God wills it to happen.

None of those things come from God. Some uninformed Christians may tell you so but they are all a result of man's free will. All evil entered into the world through sin, and sin through man's choice.

As has been said ,we live in a fallen world where bad things happen. Everything doesn't happen because God wills it to happen.

Don't you mean Global Cooling?

Fortunately those involved in climate science are not cosmologist.

What you present is a long way from an "inerrant" word of God. If the Bible was truly the inerrant word of God, it wouldn't matter when it was written. You've helped establish that at least some of the Bible does not meet that description, now the question just become how much of it is in error and not to be takes as the literal work of God.

You could bet your last buck they are evolutionists.

That's because evolution is a fact. Changes in allele frequencies within populations over time occur.

Please. It is a superstition unsupported by real science. Explain to us the Cambrian explosion.

A young earth creationist trying to defend his position by referencing the Cambrian explosion.

Now that's funny!!

Do you even know when it occurred, and over what time frame?

So you are not going to explain it?

If you pack of pricks don't give up on this I shall set my lunatic Christian mother upon you, the witch has her own prayer room and spends some four hours each day studying and praying.
Each week her and the rest of her lunatic coterie meet upon the local mountain overlooking the city she lives in and spends a couple of hours praying over the town and it's citizens.

I hope that was more tongue in cheek than I took it.