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In 50 plus years of shooting/hunting I've yet to crony a load. If it works, it works. It's up to me to position it. I don't need to obsess over speed. Good groups, bullet construction/performance, and knowing the trajectory of the round is far more important than speed. The crony will only tell you how it should perform according to the charts. You still have to shoot it at ranges. The other thing it might tell you is the consistency of your loads, which can be a good thing. Again provable otherwise by actual shooting. I cut out the chrony middleman....tho I do use the factory statistics and charts- which seldom exactly match the gun/me /range live shoots. Wow! David Hello David. Would you mind explaining what is "Wow" about las post? Sure. I don't think I've ever read so much stupidity regarding the use of a chronograph in such a short post. David David, Perhaps you might also be surprised at 'the stupidity' of those, I venture to say, "more than a few" who have killed our truckloads of game without worrying about whether the scope tracks...because we never touch it after it is sighted in where we want it. (What the hell does a hunter need turrets for anyway?) And ...... have never pointed a rangefinder at an animal before the crosshairs of the scope get so directed. But yeah, I have owned and used chronographs for over 30 years, but many of the loads I use to hunt with have never been chronyed .... can't really say why but they work every bit as well as anything I used before I owned a chrony.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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My Dad can beat your Dad up. There. We are done. Please stop bickering like kids in the backseat of a 1960's station wagon.
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My Dad can beat your Dad up. There. We are done. Please stop bickering like kids in the backseat of a 1960's station wagon. Your dad will need to exhume my dad if he's going to pummel him......might be more trouble than he wants or needs.... But the point that las was being taken to task for is still quite defensible especially considering that this thread was started around a cartridge which is hardly a contender for being in top-three contention as "the best" (arguably). (I will admit that I love my 6.5 Swede M70 anyway.) I'd rather excoriate las for shooting a 17" barreled 30-06, but he likes it, so who am I to say what's good for him?
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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I won't fault Canazes. Anyone can have a bad day. I personally look forward to much of what he says and the angle that he does know the man knows very well. Trying to blend those lines into Las's world sure isn't going to go well though. Lol
For anyone who's been in Las's shoes however, it is an uncomplicated form of getting it 100% done and often with ease. Las likely lives in wooded terrain such as I. I've killed freezers apon freezers full of game with loads that I never Chronoed. For the last 10 years or so however a good buddy brings his chrono to the range and chronoes some of my loads for me. Funny thing is I already pretty much had my velocities pegged based on trajectory that I had recorded. I haven't put anymore game in the freezer either.
As far as shooting long range? I've got a load I've been stretching out to 700 yds with a 143 eld. According to trajectory I'm pushing that load about 2780 ish. When I put it to the chrono I'll bet I'm within 20 fps. For the record I do intend to buy a chrono this year but only for the sake of useing recorded velocity as a pressure indicator as Mule deer often points out.
With that said I do love my 6.5X55 swede. I've just ordered 100 more Lapua brass and 300 147 Eld-M Hornady's to give a try.
Trystan
Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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I won't fault Canazes. Anyone can have a bad day. I personally look forward to much of what he says and the angle that he does know the man knows very well. Trying to blend those lines into Las's world sure isn't going to go well though. Lol
Trystan Can't imagine you typing that with a straight face.......WOW
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