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In WA you don't see many local Indians hunting because they have like 7 months a year to do it. They avoid our seasons for a couple of reasons. I have seen them in the woods though.

Two of my hunting partners are Guamanians. One is a champion elk bugler and he's gone hunting with some of the tribal guys he met in the casino. They're out there, just not so much when we are.

I haven't seen but two black hunters in my life. I've only seen a handful up skiing, although more in the last couple years it seems.

I don't care what background other hunters have as long as they're respectful and ethical the more the merrier...as long as it's where you hunt. My area is pretty crowded as it is....:)


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Originally Posted by remseven
The point of this, the hunting thing might be a genetic behaviorial trait.


It's absolutely in the genes. Look at all of our history, back to cave man days, where the man would go out and hunt for food. That has been passed down to us hunters genetically. It's right there with survival.

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A little off the subject, but I couldn't help but notice the lack of black folks at Disney Orlando last week. Hardly any.


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You could replace the word hunting in all of these posts with the word hockey and they would still be relevant. It must have something to do with a missing "H" gene.


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Originally Posted by Barak

Hang a full-size NRA B27 target and run it all the way to the back of the range (25yd). Charge the pistol. If it jams (for example, if it's a 40S&W Glock loaded with 9x19mm ammo), put it in the "bad" pile, choose another pistol, and start over. If it doesn't, hold it out in front of you sideways (gangsta style), tilt your head to the side and talk a few scornful sentences of trash at the target, then fire rapidly until the gun empties or jams.



This may very well be the funniest paragraph ever posted on here.

I "wheeze" laughed when I read it.

"Scornful sentences of trash at the target",... LMAO!!

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
This may very well be the funniest paragraph ever posted on here.

I "wheeze" laughed when I read it.

"Scornful sentences of trash at the target",... LMAO!!

Yeah, now I think it's pretty funny too. I didn't think it was all that funny at the time, though, because I was afraid I was going to be swept by a muzzle with a finger on the trigger (they never did that, but it wasn't because they were avoiding it), or perhaps collect a few shards of kaboomed Glock. Fortunately, they were shooting the smallest cartridge Glock chambers for in all those guns, so there wasn't too big a kaboom factor. I'm glad they weren't trying 40S&W in a 357Sig pistol.


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Things you see at the range Huh? Walked in one day at my local range just as the local PD was interviewing three jerks,seems one was trying to clear a jam in an auto while pointed down towards the next station on his left,put a round in the concrete with pieces going in the leg of the shooter there! I waited till they where escorted out!


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Barak,

You should have offered to buy (cheap) a few of the Glocks from the bad pile!

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RE: Mz Hound Girl,

I suspected your query was in regard to the minorities as you 'cited' in your clarification. I just wanted a chance to brag about our indigenous population of Native American hunters in the Dakotas & Minnesota. Many years ago, I had a chance to hunt with a tribal member on Reservation land who taught me a lot of things- about a lot of 'things'. It was all a lot of fun!

There is however, a somewhat large re-settled population of Hmong people (Asian) in areas of Minnesota and Wisconsin- of whom a strong percentage of the men are avid and active hunters- as hunting is an important part of their native culture and heritage.

But you ask a good question- and I find the responses here enlightening.

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There are quite a few Hmong hunters here in Minnesota. They tend to hunt moreso with just their own people, although I do know a guy who's a good member of a camp up by where we hunt. He's a good hunter, and a valued member to the group. He's got a mean poker face-I won't even sit in if he's on the table. There was a camp by our deer shack in Pennsyvania that was owned and run by blacks. The ravine that ran up behind their place was know as Nig*er Hollow. My dad and the other guys were not the least bit shy about their feelings about these guys. Fortunately, I don't feel the need to persecute anyone like that.


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The largest percentage of black americans live in large, urban areas. I doubt that the percentages of black/white outdoorsmen are very different in these areas. A large percentage of rural blacks are excellent outdoorsmen, there are just not that many of them.


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I think a lot of it has to do with where you were raised.
In arizona, for a long time there was not a large black population, but of course a lot of indians, as in native american, and people from mexico.
I am so use to that, I don't even notice it most of the time.
I am seeing more blacks. The local big gun shows are full of people of all backgrounds.
What is funny to me being a "white boy" are the local indians.
About a year ago I was up on the north kaibab(north of grand canyon) and ran accross a hunting party comprised of members of a nearby tribe. Understand my roots in arizona go back into the 1800's, so I identify with these indians by far more than I do a lot of recent arrivals. We had a heck of a good time once they realized my heritage,(ran the same trails) talking about all the foreigners invading arizona.
A few years before that I ran into an apache at a gas station.
I knew he was apache from the pony tail. He was pretty stiff until he realized I grew up with his uncles, and then he told me some good spots for deer on tribal owned land, not on the res.
People are people.
Blacks for the few years ago around here, were known for hunting small game.
A long time ago, everybody in arizona I think grew up with firearms. Unlike other areas of the country.

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[quote=458 Lott]I think most black folks are uncomfortable around armed rednecks wandering the woods."

I found this statement to be very true. For a couple of years my uncle-in-law brought a fellow worker, friend with him to our deer camp. He was a wonderful fellow who I quickly became friends with, he also happened to be black.

Claude loved to hunt but was scared spitless in our woods of Northwestern Wisconsin. He wasn't scared of beasts or of getting lost, he was scared of the local hunters not wanting to share the hunting woods with a black man. He dealt with it by never letting a speck of his skin show. He constantly wore gloves, hood and a blaze orange face mask designed for cold weather. He wore this even when it was sunny and warm out and he was sweating like a seive.

I felt very sorry for my new friend that he felt he had to go through such measures to feel safe and I apologized to him on behalf of my race for the condition of real and perceived racism in this country.

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I have to add one more thing. Mexicans, indians, blacks, I am use too. But... a couple of years ago I was talking to a game and fish guy out in the desert. A truck came in speeding and he said he had to go, might be one of the boat people. You see, a number of years ago refugee groups imported a bunch of stone age people from the vietnam, laos, area and turned them loose.
They will hunt anything, with no sense of game laws, etc.
The officer had previously made what he called a "tripple slam"
arresting on the same day a vietnamese, laotian, and some other kind from asia. You can't take some body from a stone age culture and a day later expect them to understand.
Last year I ran into a group of hispanics with very broken english getting ready to hunt dove on a game restricted area, after the time cutoff. They were nice guys, but didn't understand the rules. I could have let them go on, but told them in my fractured spanish, to "let it go" for the day.

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It is a cultural thing used to be many blacks hunted or trapped it was part of survival but with the thronging to big cities and the move towards restrictive hunting laws more and more do not hunt and have not hunted for generations, same with the native americans for many years they were forbidden to hunt or to posses the tools to hunt since the whites wanted them to become dependant on the foods given by the agency or the crops they grew themselves. Asians are sort of the same with some exceptions Mongs for instance (vietnamese) are very good hunters and poachers. But on the whole the folks who are resricted to cities are less likely to hunt unless the family cultural thing is in force


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Barak - LMAO

I remember a TV show I saw one time, where a black gansta had a .45 auto to his brother's head. Turned sideways. I assume that was for recoil reduction for a faster second shot?


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There is an old Filipino man that makes the best Deer Calls there is IMHO.

He lives down there in Grayland, Wa.

I have used them for over 20 years.

They have been responsible for many Deer deaths.


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I live in NE Louisiana. Here many blacks engage in outdoor activities of all kinds. I know many black men who hunt and there are many black fishermen (and women). I've also met a black man who was a trapper. When I was a kid, my dad took me on a great guided fishing trip for white perch (sac-a-lait) in central Louisiana where our guide was a French speaking black man. However, there are very few blacks who shoot clay targets in our region.

I suspect it has a lot to do with where you grew up. If you grew up in a rural area and were exposed to hunting and fishing you are more likely to do so regardless of race. If you grew up in an urban area and were not exposed to outdoor activities you probably don't hunt or fish.

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Originally Posted by las
...Then there is an organization of homosexual gun owners, known as the "Pink Pistols" one chapter of which once posted their leased hunting property with the sign "Trespassers will be violated"....


I do NOT want to know what "evidence of sex" they leave on the deer carcass.


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Growing up I spent a fair amount of time in rural North Carolina and Alabama visiting my and my friend's kin, this would be in the '60's, and small game hunting was a way of life for both whites and "colored folks" (in the vernacular of the time) - mostly rabbits and squirrels.

This was still the time of "Whites Only" bathrooms and drinking fountains and my uncles' attitudes were certainly products of that time, but the sight of a black man walking a country lane with an old shotgun or single shot .22 was not worth a second look - long as he wasn't on their property.



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