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No, I just don't lump all Americans together nor do I paint all immigrants with the same brush.

Bristoe, I suspect you're a hard-working guy and value all of same qualities that I cited about my co-workers. I bet you consider those to be qualities that this country was founded on. And I'm sure you get fed up with lazy and entitled Americans who don't capitalize on the tremendous opportunities laid out before them. Can you concede that we at least agree about that part?

Speaking of jobs that Americans won't do, it's inexplicable that we still don't graduate near enough STEM degrees. Sure the H1B program gets abused. But I still get contacted by roughly a dozen recruiters a week that want to run positions by me. There's money lying everywhere in this country and if you pick it up it's yours, but a lot of Americas can't be bothered to make the effort. At my company we struggle to fill all technical positions, whether it's by a H1B or employee. I can promise you, the work simply would not get done... a lot of it already doesn't get done in the time we would like to do it. Budget is not what's holding us back.

I just don't get this black & white, all or nothing thinking. This world is being painted as one with only Good Guys and Bad Guys, with clear and obvious lines delineating who's who, and it's like a bad Hollywood script that's been dumbed down to the point that the dullest moviegoer can still follow along. A lot of these H1B's eventually become citizens and I think a lot of them would be future conservative voters if not for the stigma that a lot of us create for ourselves. You might be surprised to find that your favorite neighbor is some brown guy who shares your values, as opposed to the white guy who embodies everything you're against.

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Silly Rabbit!

I wasn't disputing your statistics, only your conclusion that they have anything to do with IQs, rather than economic circumstances, infrastructure, climate, etc.

Lots of stupid people have toilets- 100% of Congress for example.

We’ve been hearing “We need immigrants to fill jobs Americans can’t/won’t do” for 20 plus years. That’s more than enough time to educate folks already here (population 300 million) or up the pay to incentivize folks to do them. We experimented with “cheap imported labor” a couple hundred years ago. Didn’t work out so well...

Without regard to the opinions of the inexperienced and undereducated, President Trump has actually undertaken more changes to the governing of the country than any other president (except maybe FDR, who fcked it all up), and set a new standard for the pace of governance.

And did it with a house and senate opposed to every move he made, except judges, which are apparently a safe ground for RINOs.

Every at bat may not be a home run, but ya can't know that until the ball lands.

I say, keep swingin for the fences.

And they can't pass a drug test if required. Need to quit furnishing Americans with free stuff, and when they get hungry they will work, or steal. Then get tough on crime. miles

Why ya reckon he thinks that his supporters want more immigration?

I don't necessarily think that he does.

I don't agree with this at all, and think we should just stop immigration for the next ten years, as we've done in the past.

I have to guess at what the President is thinking, but WTF.

He may think this is a good deal. It's certainly better than just admittin everbody with money from Soros ta buy desert survival equipment.

But he may be thinkin somethin else, which if he is would piss me off worse.

He may be playin politics. Build the wall but admit *more* "legal" immigrants.

President Trump's taken the heat for the R pussies in congress in the past, invitin the heat for the shutdown and takin the leadership on ideas that benefit the country but seem unpopular among RINOs worried about the next election.

He might be doin the same thing here, to placate the owners of the RINOs.

Maybe so. But not everybody is as tolerant of it as the campfire folks are. In fact, a lot of people are getting downright discouraged about the situation.

I very seriously doubt if he would have even gotten the GOP nomination if he had ran on a platform of increasing immigration.

But that's where he's at 2 years into it.

As bad as many of you think President Trump is, take a moment and think where we would be today if Hitlery had won.

I like Dobbs and Coulter, but it's one thing to sit on one's ass on TV or write books telling everyone else what needs to be done, and entirely another to shovel the schitt necessary to accomplish it.

Why ya reckon he thinks that his supporters want more immigration?