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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by rickt300

You really can't trust ABC, plus they are using a story from MSN. Funny how they left out the part about Sellars being the guy whose head is on the block so of course he is going to deny it. Here we have an article with actual information,

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/maricopa-county-voter-database-has-been-wiped-clean-deleted/


from the same website:

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/joel-greenberg-has-flipped-on-congressman-matt-gaetz/




What's your point? Greenberg flipped? It's almost as if you are acknowledging that the source is capable of simply delivering unadulterated news rather than propaganda. That didn't help your case.

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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by rickt300

You really can't trust ABC, plus they are using a story from MSN. Funny how they left out the part about Sellars being the guy whose head is on the block so of course he is going to deny it. Here we have an article with actual information,

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/maricopa-county-voter-database-has-been-wiped-clean-deleted/


from the same website:

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/joel-greenberg-has-flipped-on-congressman-matt-gaetz/




So what if Gaetz paid for pussy? This is a far more important issue. Remember the laptop?

But here is what disgusts me and many Americans the FBI & DOJ has far more evidence that HUNTER BIDEN committed crimes and sources have said there is pedophile pictures of Child Pornography on Hunter Biden’s Laptop, the FBI has had this information since the computer store owner gave them the laptop and yet you do not see the FBI breaking down his doors like they did to Trump Attorney’s. Unequivocally there is absolutely bias in the justice system. It’s flat out Corruption. The Russia Hoax players continue their lives while anyone tied to Donald Trump their lives have been destroyed either their names, their contacts, their friends and financially. The Russia Hoax was cooked up by Hillary Clinton sold to the FBI who knew it was opposition research but still bought it hook, line and sinker.


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Corksuckers like Suckawhore love the double standards. Thats the only thing keeping their BS in the game.

Same thing with Weiners attempts to lure kids to be involved with him. It bothers pukes like Suckawhore not in the least, nor do the stories of what was found on his laptop.

If Biteme doesnt do as tge CCP wants him too, they will just throw out a few more stories of Hunter. It doesnt bother him either that Biteme is owned by them.


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
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This was the crime of the century.


Worse than 9/11?



Making our election process a fixed scam? Yes. That strikes at the heart of American liberty.

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https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...able-election-crime-nonsense/5115549001/

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“The DELETION of an entire database and critical Election files of Maricopa County is unprecedented,” Trump said.

Or, as people with actual elections experience say, not at all unusual. Just because a file has been deleted, they say, doesn't mean the data is gone.

Ken Bennett, the Senate’s liaison to the audit, on Friday walked back his earlier claim that the county destroyed evidence, conceding there might be a reasonable explanation for why the files were deleted.

“Maybe it was deleted because it was a duplicate of something that was elsewhere,” he told The Arizona Republic’s Jen Fifield.

Gee, maybe Bennett and Fann should have found out before announcing to the world that Maricopa County officials are corrupt.

But hey, mission accomplished.


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The county plans to hold a public meeting on Monday “to refute lies and lay out the facts”.


Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
This was the crime of the century.


Worse than 9/11?



Making our election process a fixed scam? Yes. That strikes at the heart of American liberty.


Exactly, odd the leftrats don't seem to get it.


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Has anyone ever offered one valid reason why they are opposed to the audit? If I were a Democrat, I'd want it to shut Trump's whiny ass up. All Democrats are certain it was accurate after all. If I were Dominion, I'd be happy to put the integrity of my machines on display. If I were the Justice Department, I'd want to know if there was any foul play. Any constitution loving, democratic voting process loving American should want to know that their one voice in government, their vote, is protected. The veritable tantrum that is being thrown on so many fronts is inexplicable...unless there is something to hide.


How many times should the Maricopa votes be audited?

what will the right answer be?

Best 2 out of 3?

Best 3 out of 5?


I asked you in another thread a few days back how deep the previous audits went. In typical chikkinschidt fashion you hid from the question. You hid from the question because you know any previous audit was superficial in comparison to what's going on right now.

The FBI had investigated Paul Manafort a number of times for tax issues prior to the Russian Hoax Investigation. They investigated him again and found tax infractions. By your logic, they should have left him alone.

That aside, even with this dodge, you didn't deliver a cogent explanation for being opposed to the audit.


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In November, Maricopa conducted a hand count of a sample of ballots under state law and found no discrepancies in the county. Earlier this year, Maricopa County also ordered a forensic audit of votes, which was conducted by three separate firms, including a certified public accountancy and two voting-systems labs accredited by the federal Election Assistance Commission. The audit searched for hacking of machines, vote-switching, and malicious software, and found none. All of this was done under the law as laid out by the Arizona legislature.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by rickt300

You really can't trust ABC, plus they are using a story from MSN. Funny how they left out the part about Sellars being the guy whose head is on the block so of course he is going to deny it. Here we have an article with actual information,

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/maricopa-county-voter-database-has-been-wiped-clean-deleted/


from the same website:

https://thepoliticalwarroom.com/joel-greenberg-has-flipped-on-congressman-matt-gaetz/




What's your point? Greenberg flipped? It's almost as if you are acknowledging that the source is capable of simply delivering unadulterated news rather than propaganda. That didn't help your case.




it's a whack-job site...Gaetz is in no trouble.


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Although the process has been called an “audit” or a “recount,” it doesn’t match the procedures laid out in state law for either of those. To conduct the audit, the state hired a Florida software-security firm called Cyber Ninjas. The company refused to tell me whether it has any experience with election audits, and its website, while featuring an impressive array of ninja stock photos, offers no indications that it is qualified to conduct election-security reviews. The only apparent reason for Cyber Ninjas’ selection is that the company’s founder, Doug Logan, was a noisy proponent of “Stop the Steal” theories of fraud in the election. (Logan has not responded to my requests for comment or an interview.)

The state Senate allocated just $150,000 for the audit, far too little to cover all the costs. So despite recently banning boards of elections from using private money, the Senate has turned to private donors to fill the gap. Cyber Ninjas hasn’t disclosed all of its funding sources, though some have emerged. Unsurprisingly, much of it has come from people invested in the idea of fraud. Patrick Byrne, the eccentric former head of Overstock.com, has donated $1 million and set a goal to raise almost $2 million more. Employees of One America News Network, the conspiracist pro-Trump news outlet, have also raised hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the outlet has been given special access as the official broadcast partner of the audit.

The results of this audit so far have been exactly what one might expect from an ill-defined process led by an apparently unqualified and partisan actor. Cyber Ninjas tried to avoid even explaining its putative procedures for the audit, labeling them a trade secret, until a federal judge ordered the company to release them. Not only is the process bad; it’s also likely to run far longer than anticipated. The state Senate initially planned for the count to finish by May 14, but at the current pace, it could take months more.

“We know from day-to-day observation that even the procedures they set forth that they were going to use, they are not following,” said Patrick, who was previously a longtime elections official in Maricopa County.

Usually audits and recounts are conducted with teams of people from different parties to ensure fairness, but most observers are Republicans, and Cyber Ninjas has not made clear the arrangements for reviewing ballots. Some of the tables where counting is occurring aren’t being watched at all. Cyber Ninjas has required observers to sign a nondisclosure agreement, which defeats the purpose of having observers present.

One official told a reporter this week that auditors are examining ballots for bamboo fibers, apparently because of a baseless conspiracy theory about China flying in 40,000 fake ballots. Ken Bennett, a former Arizona secretary of state working with the state Senate, also told the pro-Trump blog Gateway Pundit that workers were using UV lights to examine ballots for watermarks, apparently a nod to a QAnon theory about watermarked fraudulent ballots. (What sort of fraudster watermarks their own misdeeds?)




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Has anyone ever offered one valid reason why they are opposed to the audit? If I were a Democrat, I'd want it to shut Trump's whiny ass up. All Democrats are certain it was accurate after all. If I were Dominion, I'd be happy to put the integrity of my machines on display. If I were the Justice Department, I'd want to know if there was any foul play. Any constitution loving, democratic voting process loving American should want to know that their one voice in government, their vote, is protected. The veritable tantrum that is being thrown on so many fronts is inexplicable...unless there is something to hide.


How many times should the Maricopa votes be audited?

what will the right answer be?

Best 2 out of 3?

Best 3 out of 5?


I asked you in another thread a few days back how deep the previous audits went. In typical chikkinschidt fashion you hid from the question. You hid from the question because you know any previous audit was superficial in comparison to what's going on right now.

The FBI had investigated Paul Manafort a number of times for tax issues prior to the Russian Hoax Investigation. They investigated him again and found tax infractions. By your logic, they should have left him alone.

That aside, even with this dodge, you didn't deliver a cogent explanation for being opposed to the audit.


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In November, Maricopa conducted a hand count of a sample of ballots under state law and found no discrepancies in the county. Earlier this year, Maricopa County also ordered a forensic audit of votes, which was conducted by three separate firms, including a certified public accountancy and two voting-systems labs accredited by the federal Election Assistance Commission. The audit searched for hacking of machines, vote-switching, and malicious software, and found none. All of this was done under the law as laid out by the Arizona legislature.





The forensic audit looked for hacking of machines that nobody has a password for? Fascinating.

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President Trump Remarks on The Maricopa County Voting Result Database Being Deleted, Or Was It Always Assembled Off-site


https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ted-or-was-it-always-assembled-off-site/


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Originally Posted by Cluggins
Has anyone ever offered one valid reason why they are opposed to the audit? If I were a Democrat, I'd want it to shut Trump's whiny ass up. All Democrats are certain it was accurate after all. If I were Dominion, I'd be happy to put the integrity of my machines on display.


Exactly. As far as "how many times" goes, If I were a Democrat I would be more than happy to let them audit and recount for the next three years and continue to look foolish if I was sure I had won. Nothing could be better for them. Same with Dominion.

When they get finished with Arizona they need to come down here to Georgia. I don't think our governor is too interested because I think he is in on it.

I don't see the big deal. The Democrats and Hillary Clinton pushed the idea that Trump and the Russians stole 2016 from her for four years.

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Why don,t we just count the votes a hundred times until the Republicans get what they want. The vote was counted according to State law and recounted then

The Secretary of State a Republican Certified the vote. Biden won. That is all the law allows, what they are doing now is illegal. Then the Republicans hired a

Partison group associated with Qanon to come in and do a illegal count. If the Democrats do not like that count do they get to count 4 times to see if they can win?

See where this goes when you do not follow state law? Games over President Biden won good luck in 2024.

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Why don,t we just count the votes a hundred times until the Republicans get what they want. The vote was counted according to State law and recounted then

The Secretary of State a Republican Certified the vote. Biden won. That is all the law allows, what they are doing now is illegal. Then the Republicans hired a

Partison group associated with Qanon to come in and do a illegal count. If the Democrats do not like that count do they get to count 4 times to see if they can win?

See where this goes when you do not follow state law? Games over President Biden won good luck in 2024.



There are way to many discrepancy's and questions about how the count went down.
Only a Cheat would not want the count continued to clear up and answer those discrepancy's
If it was an honest Vote count so be it.
Let them waste their money and Count and Count and Count.

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Only a Cheat wants the Count STOPPED.

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When it comes to red flag legislation, aren't the Democrats always telling people "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear".?

Yeah...I'm not buying their argument nor their feigned indignation.


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What you are asking for is not provided under Arizona Law or any other state. Once the vote is certified , game is over in every state. By the way the

Republican controlled Maricopa County, Board of Supervisors, stands Behind there original vote tally.

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Only a cheat wants to keep counting the votes until it comes out his way and then he will block any more vote counts. I,m telling you, you have to follow the law.

that was done . Biden won election over.

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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


Only a cheat wants to keep counting the votes until it comes out his way and then he will block any more vote counts. I,m telling you, you have to follow the law.

that was done . Biden won election over.


If I did drugs, I'd want whatever hallucinogens you are on. The election was so blatantly stolen that it boggles the mind. Assuming one has a mind that can look at evidence objectively, which is obvious that you don't.

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Well lets see, the Republican head of the Election Dept. in Maricopa County calls Trumps Claims about the election "Unhinged".

House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy last week said the results of the election are over with. It appears that only a few radical

Republicans believe any longer that the election was not properly counted, and still believe that Trump won.

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Why is the audit taking so long?

Don’t know how it works in Arizona but where we live the voter simply bubbles in the vote choices and the computer simply tabulates the votes.

Therefore to conduct an audit you simply pull all the hard paper ballots and manually count them.

Should take a week or less for a single county I would suspect.


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